With his National Security Team Composition, I am actually beginning to like Barack Obama…

As president buyer-elect Obama introduces his security team to the world(not only our beloved nation) the Dow Jones takes a deep ride south. It was amazing watching this man talking and the little numbers going down as he talked. When asked about his campaign positions and his new ambiguous positions on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, the Dow was going deeper south.
I loved to see Susan Rice. Her youth and enthusiasm would have been better rewarded with a National Security Advisor position rather than “ambassador to the UN”. But Obama had the mix of new and old, old rivals smiling at each others like nothing has happened or said just 6 months ago.
I know, the smiles of today will turn into accusations and resignations in just 3 years, especially if we get attacked again.
But let’s give this mix old/new-change/same a chance!

Congratulations. This is what Obama aimed for from the beginning. He’s EVERYONE’S president, not just the left.

I, too, am rooting for success for our country. Our country’s financial challenges cannot be understated. Economists agree we are in the worst economic crisis in our lifetime. Bush inherited a $126 billion budget surplus from Bill Clinton. Our newly elected President will be inheriting a projected $1 trillion budget deficit from Bush.

As to being hoodwinked, let’s stop the political spin. It was reported in June that Obama was considering keeping Gates on as Secretary of Defense. Change means having a diversity of input and opinions. Anyone who voted for McCain knows he also promised a renewed bipartisan spirit. Myself, I wholeheartedly support that principle.

Do Hillary Clinton supporters feel hookwinked that she supported, endorsed, and voted for Obama? Why should they? She always said she would support the Democratic party’s nominee. As she says, “It’s time to restore the ties that bind us together and to come together around the ideals we share, the values we cherish, and the country we love.”

Carmelo Junior, congratulations for buying the Republican talking points hook, line, and sinker. Every time the Dow drops, it’s all Obama’s fault right? Here’s a newsflash. The market has dropped from over 13,000 to 8100 in the past year while Bush has been President.

Prices dropped 680 points today because investors are reacting to confirmation that our economy is now in a recession. Which President is in charge of the economy right now? George W. Bush. And Henry Paulson is Treasury Secretary. Carmelo Junior, your motto is Blame Obama First. I salute you for being honest about that. It’s obvious that every time the Dow rises, you’ll say it’s everything but Obama that caused that. And it wasn’t Bush that caused that $1 trillion budget deficit right?

But back to my original point. I applaud PUMA Pundit for genuinely supporting progress and success for our country. Whatever differences we may have, we are Americans first.

Oh PP, you made me tear up.

You ARE an adult!!!!

~Roza

I see that Barack Obama is running circles around you people, again. He’s setting you up and disarming his critics before he even takes office. You’re just not bright enough to figure that out.

“Prices dropped 680 points today because investors are reacting to confirmation that our economy is now in a recession. ”

Investors are reacting not to a “recession” but to a new government based on dramatic economic proposals. The Dow Jones can go down and can go up. That is not an idicator or recession. That is just a market indicator, just like a thermometer meassuring the temperture. The Dow Jones can be 6 hundreds points below the media market now and in 5 hours can go up 300 points.

Clinton left America in the worst security stance in decades and see what that cost: 3,000 innocent lives. Not soldiers or marines, but fathers, mothers, children, wives, husbands. Innocent American lives who did not do anything to deserve that horrible death. Clinton destroyed what Reagan built: a strong and feared USA. Reagan said “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall”, Bush Sr. Said ” Saddam get out of Kwait of we’ll destroy you”, Bush Jr said “North Korea, Iraq and Iran are an axis of evil”. But Clinton said “I did not have sex with that woman” Do you see the difference??

After 9-11 America will never be the same. Only Obama and his extreme left wing puppets want us to forget that horrible day.

America made history electing this man. But History can only be cheated once!

Carmelo Jr, once again I salute you for being 100% Republican. Even though 9/11 happened 9 months after Bush took office, it was all Clinton’s fault right? Then I guess that means when the terrorists first tried to blow up the World Trade Center 1 month after Clinton took office, that was Bush Sr’s fault right? And if terrorists strike on US soil 9 months after Obama takes office, that will be George W’s fault right?

And the reason George W. failed to react to the presidential briefing memo he received on August 6, 2001 entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the US” was Clinton’s fault right?

Of course, you’re also the one who said if Bush could’ve run for a third term, he would’ve beat Obama—even though Bush’s approval rating is currently 6 points lower than Carter’s was in 1980.

Here’s a scoop about Saddam Hussein. Saddam’s armed forces killed 190,000 Iranian troops in a bloody 8 year war. Iran owes Bush a big thank you for removing Saddam Hussein. Iraq’s Prime Minister al-Maliki is now best buddies with Ahmadinejad. Al Maliki meets Ahmadinejad on a regular basis without preconditions. That’s what $700 billion in US taxpayers money has bought us.

Meanwhile the ones who masterminded the killings of 3000 innocent citizens have had safe haven in Pakistan for the past six years. Remember when Bush said “We will pursue nations that provide safe haven to terrorists?”

I love how you fail to realize that the President who has driven our economy into a ditch is George W. Bush. On October 10th Bush addressed the nation on the economy and the Dow Jones dropped 107 points during his speech. Six weeks before the election, on September 29th, the Dow dropped 778 points. Investors were reacting to a weak President.

The Dow also dropped 800 points from September 15 – 18. At the time, the Rasmussen poll had McCain up by 2 points. McCain was also ahead in Florida and Ohio. That means investors were reacting to the possibility McCain would be elected President right?

As I said before, Carmelo, you’re motto is Blame Obama First. The Bureau of Economic Research reports that the Bush economy has been in a recession since last December. What reputable economic sources do you have that says we’re not in a recession?

Hiking4T,

“As I said before, Carmelo, you’re motto is Blame Obama First. ”

Did Reagan, Bush Sr. or Bush Jr or even Clinton were called “Messiah”???

Don’t you remember that before the economic meltdown of mid September McCain and Palin were unstopable in the polls and in the electoral college prospects and polls?? Even black democrats saying Obama needed a miracle.

The Dow Jones, what we call INDU, is just an average of market behavior. It is the total of investments devided by the capital. Investors can’t predict a recession, they predict market values! Only the media and wall street maniacs love to scare voters during elections. And the media and some uninformed fellas are the ones who spread the idiotic premise that when it is means “economy” the democrats have the win. That is just BS!

A bail out is a good idea to rescue our economy, even when it is our tax money. What people needs to realize is that they need PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! If you can’t afford a 200,000 dollars home, why are you getting loans for that amount??

You write:

“On October 10th Bush addressed the nation on the economy and the Dow Jones dropped 107 points during his speech. Six weeks before the election, on September 29th, the Dow dropped 778 points. Investors were reacting to a weak President. ”

Again my dear Watson, investors DO NOT react to no weak or strong president. Investors react to this president’s proposals! Investors don’t care about presidents, they care about what their economic proposal entails.

Obama proposes to raise taxes to the 5% richest part of our population. And the investors go nuts. Why?? Because raising taxes is the worst thing can happen when our capital is low.
Senator McCain was right when he said that “the foundamentals of our economy are still strong”. MSNBC and others Obama maniacs did not say anything, they waited untill the polls came out to say that McCain was wrong. Did you notice that? They were all about polls!

McCain was correct!! The US economy is the strongest economy in the world! We are still buying big SUVs, buying 300,000 dollars homes, and packing Walmart.

The polls only showed the more confidence people had in Obama on the economy than McCain. The polls did not show that McCain was wrong!!

Obama is called the “Messiah” who will come from the heavens to solve all our problems. Well, let’s see if the “Messiah” can keep on with all his crazy promises! Let’s see if he can act more than he talks!

Hiking4T,

your statements are not as ridiculous as they are dangerous. Wakopedia and the New York Times won’t give you the clear mind you need.

You write:

“Meanwhile the ones who masterminded the killings of 3000 innocent citizens have had safe haven in Pakistan for the past six years. Remember when Bush said “We will pursue nations that provide safe haven to terrorists?”

Where did you get that the ones who masterminded 9-11 had have “safe haven” in Pakistan?? Kenyan boy told you that?

FYI Pakistan is one of the most rocky and mountaneus countries in the world. Its geography is so erratic that even its own goverment can’t explore some vast areas. Especially when this goverment tries to survive and keep 100 nuclear weapons safe.

It is dangerous to antagonize with Pakistan which is a key ally of the US. Pakistan has supported us in all way possible and there is no evidence they are “keeping safe haven to Al Quada or Taliban” . Obama’s most dangerous proposition is to send at least 3 combat brigades to Pakistan. If you don’t know what is a combat brigade, this is a corp of over 5 thousand(5,000) infantry units trained for war.
Just sending a combat brigade into a sovereign nation who happens to be capable of wiping another nation off the planet will, with no doubts, become an act OF WAR!
If you can see, a combat brigade is not a couple of Apaches helicopters shooting at suspected terrorists. A combat brigade is WAR!

You really need to stop reading Wakopedia and the New York Times or Kenyan boy’s nonsenses.

Carmelo Jr,

You’re funny. You say Obama has proposed to send 3 combat brigades to Pakistan. Wrong. Obama has proposed to send 3 combat brigades to Afghanistan. What source do you have that says he wants to send combat brigades to Pakistan?

Here’s another fact. Bin Laden, al-Zawahiri and the al Qaeda masterminds are in Pakistan. Coalition troops can go anywhere they want in Afghanistan. Coalition troops have air supremacy in Afghanistan. If Bin Laden and his sick al Qaeda cohorts had been in Afghanistan the past 6 years, coalition troops would’ve hunted them down by now. Face it, they’re in Pakistan.

Here’s another fact. Iraq is a key ally of the US. Coalition troops are allowed to hunt down terrorists in every single square inch of Iraq. Coalition troops have permission to fire missiles from drones at terrorist suspects in Iraq. But Pakistan doesn’t give coalition troops permission to use drones to fire missiles at terrorist suspects.

That’s why Obama said “If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”

How did the Republicans react to that? First of all, they claimed Obama wanted to bomb Pakistan, which wasn’t true. Obama said he would give permission for US drones to fire missiles at high-value terrorist targets. Secondly, they said Pakistan was more capable of hunting down bin Laden and al-Zawahiri than coalitiion forces. That’s utter crap. In my books, coalition forces are far superior than Pakistan forces.

Just so I know where you stand, do you think Pakistani forces are superior to coalition forces at hunting down terrorists?

Carmelo Jr,

I hope you’re not a Wall Street investor Carmelo because you have a lot to learn about the stock market. You correctly point out that McCain and Palin dropped in the polls when the stock market began collapsing in September. So ask yourself this question, Carmelo, why did voters abandon McCain when the economy started falling apart? It’s because they lost confidence in McCain/Palin to be able to fix the economy.

You basically say our economy is going great guns right now, Carmelo. Hmm, then why did voters reject the McCain/Palin economic plan? Why does Bush have a 26% approval rating? This morning’s job report says the Bush economy lost another 180,000 jobs last month. The Bush economy has lost 1.3 million jobs in the last year. By contrast, Bill Clinton created 23 million jobs.

As I expected, you couldn’t find any sources to say we are not in a recession. You say everyone is buying SUV’s & $300,000 homes. Then why is Bush’s approval ratings lower than Carter’s? And why didn’t McCain/Palin win?

I love it when people make assumption about the economy. The fact is, it is cyclical and we’ve staved off a recession with the lowering of interest rates throughout the Bush presidency. The economy isn’t where it is because of Bush. And it wasn’t flush because of Clinton in the late 90′s. Clinton had the internet explosion and the Y2k compliance bubbles, which immediately burst in 2000 and 2001. Stop blaming or crediting the President’s for job losses or gains. They have very little to do with it or the economy.

With that being said, you confirm the ridiculous assumption by most that the President is responsible (as if he were some fascist dictator with no checks or balances). So you are right when you say that people place blame on Bush and therefore the rest of the republican party. You basically have a constitutent base that believes this was all a Bush issue (wrong), you have the media and the Dems fueling this (when in actuality it was the Dems that wanted to keep the deregulation of Fanny and Freddie), and finally you have citizens that are scared for their well being (another problem that the media is propagating). Add to that a charismatic candidate that is promising the world – basically a modern day Robin Hood sent in to steal from the rich to give to the poor – and of course Obama won. Now let’s see what he does – not much different is my guess. Politics as usual – promise everything, do nothing.

OC Libertarian

I agree some people make wild off-the-mark assumptions about the economy. But as Fox News reported on Monday, it was economists from the National Bureau of Economic Research who reported that our economy is in a recession. And Bush’s Treasury Secretary Paulson didn’t disagree with their conclusion.

I also agree that a wide variety of factors drive the economy aside from who sits in the Oval Office. What’s funny is how Republicans are now trying to say everything that goes wrong with the economy and stock market is the fault of the guy who doesn’t move into the Oval Office for another 7 weeks.

I also agree that everybody just can’t resist trying to spin everything to fit their particular political agenda. The Dems do it. The Repubs do it. The Libertarians do it. Liberals do it. Conservatives do it.

For example, you say Obama is a modern day Robin Hood promising the world. Hmm, then why was Obama endorsed by former Reagan advisers Charles Fried, Francis Fukuyama, Larry Hunter, and Bill Ruckelshaus, plus Texas Republican party finance director Richard Seline? Why did former Reagan advisers choose Obama’s economic plan over McCain’s? Are you saying they were swayed by the Dems and the media?

Hiking4T you write:

“You’re funny. You say Obama has proposed to send 3 combat brigades to Pakistan. Wrong. Obama has proposed to send 3 combat brigades to Afghanistan. What source do you have that says he wants to send combat brigades to Pakistan?”

Joe, did you watch the democratic party primaries? Did you not hear how Kenyan boy verbalized the scariest statement of the primaries? He said if the Pakistanis don’t turn in Bin Laden, he would get in there and do it for them. he said “I’ll take ‘em out” . Your dangerous and naive Kenyan boy believes that the Pakistanis are hiding Bin Laden and Al Quada there. Is this guy out of his Kenyan mind? That “I’ll take ‘em out ” sound strong but really is riduculously dangerous.
Right after that he said he will send 3 COMBAT BRIGADES to Aghanistan. Yes, what part of Afghanistan? Kabul? Don’t be so naive. Obama said he wants to send combat brigades to the Afghan-Pakistani border. Is the same thing as saying PAKISTAN!

Carmelo Jr,

I hear you loud and clear, Carmelo. You think Pakistan has every right to tell us not to use US drones to hunt and kill terrorists. I say you’re dead wrong.

On October 31, missiles fired from our drones killed an al Qaeda leader in Pakistan. Pakistan’s reaction? They said we were in violation of its sovereignty and demanded that we stop firing missiles at whatever high-value targets we have in our sights.

What does that have to do with rocky terrain, Carmelo? That’s why our military uses drones. Why do you support Pakistan criticizing our military for using drones to kill high-value al Qaeda targets?

I never said Pakistan was hiding bin Laden, al-Zawahiri and their al Qaeda terrorist followers. What I do say is that Pakistan has little interest in going after bin Laden and al-Zawahiri. If they are so interested in hunting bin Laden down, then why do they get upset when our drones kill OBL’s terrorist followers? Who’s being naieve, Carmelo?

Who’s Joe?

Hiking4T

The traditional definition of recession is 2 consecutive quarters of GDP decline. I have to wonder why these government agencies want to add fuel to the fire by incorporating job rates.

I never said that Obama was the cause of decline in the stock market or the economy. If we can agree that the recession was driven mainly by subprime mortgages (or probably more accurately, was exacerbated by the mortgage crisis (already heading there because of cyclical nature of the economy)), then I’m assuming we can agree that the people that consistently voted against oversight of Fanny and Freddie are to blame? Sorry, but that’s the dem’s. I don’t blame Obama, mainly because he doesn’t have much of a record and had not stuck his neck out for F&F like Frank, Dodd, etc.

I do believe that if Obama with a dem majority legislature decides his great wealth distribution program, then we will see even an even greater recession. Sorry but human nature will get in the way. If people are afraid that the government is going to take something away from them unfairly, they will find a way to keep it. It’s just a prediction – no blame at this point. But I think Obama is in this for the long haul and his recent appointment tell me that he will stick with the status quo for a while and not shake things up – for better or worse.

I don’t see any of those people voting for Obama based on his economic policies. Most voted for Obama as a smack against their own party for the war, Palin, and just because he seems like a guy that can bring the country together. Plus I think some of these folks hate McCain – he doesn’t necessarily have a great rep within repub circles. I also think that if repubs had stuck to their roots (limited government, balanced budget), there wouldn’t have been such a lopsided victor for dems this election cycle.

When I say that people are swayed – i’m taking the average American who doesn’t follow politics and basically believes the small soundbytes they hear or read without further investigation.

P.S. I don’t know if Obama will play Robin Hood, but her certainly sold himself that way with all his rhetoric.

(sorry so long)

Hiking4T ,

your knowledge of foreign affair is as limited as Obama’s. Obama says his foreign affairs expertise he got it by traveling to Muslim countries(where he visited his anti American Muslim buddies and family). And you, as an Obamabot are saying the same ridiculous and naive stuff.

First, Pakistan is like it or not, a sovereign country. The reaction of the Pakistani government to US spies planes flying their country with no permission is a NATURAL reaction! Yet, not for this they are going to invade other countries or retaliate like the Russians are doing NOW in response to US-NATO-Poland security treaties!

There is no evidence that the Pakistani government is hiding Bin Laden or Al Quada there! There is no evidence as on where exactly this killer might be. There are hundreds of vast mountainous miles between Afghanistan and Pakistan borders. Sending US combat brigades to this unstable region might be worst than just sending two Apaches helicopter to shoot some suspected terrorists.

Now you are going to be wiser than top Bush’s generals and advisors who say the best tactical way to deal with Afghanistan-Pakistan is using SPECIAL OPERATIONS, tips,and leads. NOT a full scale US evolvement!

Do you think Pakistan can secure its borders better than the USA can secure its own ??? For God’s sake, stop reading the New York Times, Us magazine and the Fancy Chronicles! You don’t even know how naive and ridiculous you sound in this forum. Just like your crazy “messiah” Kenyan boy.

Carmelo Jr,

Just as I suspected. You salute Pakistan for telling our military to take a hike after one of our drones shot a missile that killed an al Qaeda leader in Pakistan. You say that’s Pakistan’s natural reaction to our military’s desire to kill al Qaeda terrorists in Pakistan. New York Times? Even Fox News reported that incident and others where Pakistan officials have criticized our military for using drones to kill al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan.

What are you talking about being wiser than Bush’s generals and advisors? Who do you think authorized letting our drones fly over Pakistan airspace and fire missiles at suspected al Qaeda terrorist targets? You are incredibly naieve. Carmelo if you think our drones and our informants on the ground in Pakistan aren’t acting in coordination with our highest level officials.

We’re not talking about Pakistan’s right to secure their own borders, Carmelo. We’re talking about our right to kill al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan who were involved in the killings of 3000 innocent citizens on 9/11.

You make no sense, Carmelo. It’s outright laughable that you talk about what’s naieve and ridiculous when you say Bush would’ve won a third term if he had been allowed to run in this election. Where did you hear that? Rush Limbaugh?

Hiking4T,

The Bush administration’s doctrine of “preemptive strike” does not includes the disclosure of specific plans of a full intervention of American COMBAT BRIGADES like your Kenyan boy has said. The whole concept of “preemptive” is the “shock and owe” tactic. In other words, you don’t tell your enemy what you are going to do!!

Joe*, the use US Unmanned Aerial Vehicles(UAV) or “drones” for selective missions and strikes is not preemptive and it is not a full scale US intervention!! Drones are not preemptive weapons like the STEALTH fighters, the F-22 series, the F-16 series, Surface to Surface missiles and the famous Sea to Surface missiles. You sound so confused. Preemptive war is based on speed. A drone (UAV) is not preemptive!

You are just spreading rumors and assuming what other people think. Just like Kenyan boy.

You are spreading left wing rumors that Pakistan is our enemy, that the Iraqis don’t like us, that our troops are killing women , children and poor Iraqi men coming back from work.

This is a kicker:
We’re not talking about Pakistan’s right to secure their own borders, Carmelo. We’re talking about our right to kill al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan who were involved in the killings of 3000 innocent citizens on 9/11.”

You have no right unless you have given those rights to others first. Killing Al Quada folks in foreign nations is not a right, it is vengeance. Vengeance is not a right Joe! Preventive war is not a war to fight for our rights, it is a move to eliminate a threat IN ADVANCE!!!

Joe*=Amazingly Naive person who never stops saying nonsense that he think are practical and of interest to certain people. The Joe Biden’s phrase that Dick Cheney is the most dangerous VP in history is an example of what “Joe” says.

You need to start reading better books, I won’t be around forever Joe!

Camelo Jr,

You’re definitely entertaining. When did I say Iraqis don’t like us? When did I say our troops are killing women, children, and poor Iraqi men coming back from work? When did I say Pakistan is our enemy?

Here’s the story, Carmelo. I’m not a card-carrying Democrat or Republican. Like Reagan, I support limited government and balanced budgets. I supported John McCain in 2000. I thought Bill Clinton should’ve resigned after admitting he lied about “having sex with that woman.” I am against using $700 billion in US taxpayers money to pay for the bailout and I think it was a huge mistake for Obama, McCain, and others to vote in favor of that.

I am very concerned that our country now has a $10 trillion debt and a $1 trillion budget deficit that seems destined to be left to our children and grandchildren to pay for. I’m also worried that we owe hundreds of billions of dollars to China and have a huge trade deficit.

I don’t blindly accept any one point of view. I read a lot of books, articles, and research on all sides of the issues. I love my country and am a firm believer in democracy. I have family and friends who are Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. We have lively debates and yes, sometimes have strong disagreements. But we also respect each other’s beliefs.

If you read my post to OC Libertarian above, I’m well aware that most people can’t resist trying to spin everything to fit their own political point of view. Democrats. Republicans. Independents. Liberatarians. Obama supporters. Hillary supporters. McCain supporters. Palin supporters.

Maybe in your books that adds up to being an amazingly naive person, Carmelo. So be it. Our forefathers fought for your right to freely state your opinions and beliefs.

You and I share at least one thing in common. We are both proud Americans who love our country.

Hiking4T,

,

let me give you some lessons about politics maybe you are not aware about:

Sarah Palin, in an extraordinary humorous and smart way asked Joseph Biden if she could call him “Joe” before they engage in the VP debate. This girl is smart! Several pundits and some in the media immediately understood what for millions seemed a naive request. How can she ask Biden to call him “Joe” when that is his widely known nick name. Then in a very folksy way and paraphrasing Reagan, she started to mock her opponent. Remember that Sarah is academically trained in communications.
It was practically the same humorous way she came out on her incredible VP acceptance speech.
By being likable and with strong positions she won that debate. BUT the public was already biased because Biden has 30 plus years of political experience. Yet he could not hide his surprise when he faced this young and smart woman talking straight to him and Americans.

So, in this forum you write like those “Joe’s” around. Confusing concepts, facts and following just a biased trend, the Kenyan boy’s trend. Saying or assuming that the Pakistani government officially refuses to allow our military(NOT COMBAT BRIGADES) to get suspected terrorists in their territory.

Our economy is in bad shape, yes, BUT we have been thru this before or even worst. And guess what? We came back stronger! Don’t blame Bush, Reagan or Clinton for bailouts of bad mortgages. Don’t think Obama is a “messiah” that will magically solve all our problems. He will make them worst! If he follows his own proposals and promises in national security and economy, things are going to be worst than they are now!

Appointing Hillary Clinton as SOS might bring him some support, but Hillary don’t know anything about diplomacy! General Jones don’t know anything about National Security. You don’t appoint a marine general to run our national security! Why not appoint him as assistant NSA? You don’t appoint a known anti Internet fellow and the one who was part of the Elian Gonzalez melee as attorney general. You don’t appoint a known old bureaucrat as head of our Home Land Security department, not just because she is an(ugly) woman!

Obama’s National Security team is destined to fail. You don’t mix oil and gasoline to try to extinguish a fire. Where is the “change” you wanted to bring if you appoint the same old boring inept people of the past!!

Can we get some new ideas and talented faces too??

Carmelo Jr,

Conversation is over, Carmelo. You have zero insight into who I am. I never said Obama is a messiah who will magically solve all our problems. I never said our country won’t come back stronger. You talk about confusing concepts and facts, then you do exactly what you accuse others of doing.

What surprises me is that you use this forum to put down Hillary Clinton. You say Hillary “don’t know anything about diplomacy.” This forum was created by Hillary Clinton supporters who were unhappy that she got short-changed in the primaries. They have every right to feel that way. You don’t support Hillary, Carmelo. You say Hillary “don’t know anything about diplomacy.” Which means you think she’s not qualified to be SOS.

My Republican friends remain hopeful an Obama administration will succeed. You say Obama’s National Security team “is destined to fail.” What you are saying, Carmelo, is that you’re rooting for America to fail. You want Obama to fail. You want his National Security team to fail. You want his Cabinet to fail. And you want America to fail, Carmelo.

What you want, Carmelo, is for Bush to be in the White House for four more years. It would be interesting to find out how many Hillary supporters on this forum share your feelings about that.

Peace, brother.

Hiking4T,

you missed my point. I liked Hillary more than I liked McCain. Hillary could have been a great president, but she has too much bagage with her. But president is not Secretary of State! A president does not has to have academic background in political sciences, history, diplomacy or foreign languages. The SOS is an appointed position not ELECTIVE position. Obama appointed her just to please some folks, not to have a strong diplomat in charge!
Our national security should not be jeopardized by rock stars and old people with huge last names.
Bush can’t run for a third term, get over it! Bush is gone! We have a new president: Kenyan boy.
I don’t want the cabinet to fail. I jjust see a lot of contradictions on what Obama says and what he does. That national security team has started with the wrong foot. They are all rock stars, great name recognition…but they are the same old inept folks of 20 years ago. The only new face is Susan Rice. They have what they wanted: smiles and support from people, but Al Quada, Hamas, Jihad, The Timothy McVeights and the David Koresh out there are not smiling at all.

Well peace. I’ll keep contributing here. I love this forum. Thanks PUMAs.

Carmelo Jr,

You were the one who brought up Bush winning a third term, Carmelo. Here’s your post:

“I guarantee you, if Bush could have been the candidate again in 2008 along with Sarah Palin, he would have beaten Obama or at least give him some good fight in batteground states.”

So Carmelo shows his infinite political expertise by making a solid guarantee that Bush would’ve been America’s first choice or a close second if he only could’ve been the candidate in 2008. Nice guarantee for a President with a 28% approval rate.

“Get over it! Bush is gone!”

Actually he isn’t gone, Carmelo. Check the history books. The new President doesn’t move into the White House the day after the election, Carmelo. Bush is still President until January 20th. By the way, how’s that Bush economy doing today?

“Hillary could’ve been a great President, but she has too much baggage with her…and she don’t know anything about diplomacy.”

Whatever you say, Carmelo.