Barack and Michelle Obama… Hillary Who? Plus what if Hillary had taken on McCain?
November 13, 2008 by PUMA Pundit
Awesome payback! Hillary and Bill went all out for him, and what do they get? Let’s hear CBS tell it:
Personally, I believe the Clintons are letting themselves be taken to the cleaners: For them, it’s all give and no get. Politico.com goes on to report something I’ve blogged about several times: President-elect Obama still has not helped Senator Clinton retire any of her campaign debt–something which was widely reported last spring as part of his pledge to her if she would get out of the nomination race.
Then again, it’s a free country, and the Clintons can let themselves be used, abused, and bruised by their own party for as long as they want. Politico.com reports Senator Clinton has already written off her taxes the $13 million she loaned her own campaign during the primaries. Ouch! And the Clintons didn’t just support Obama; they hit the campaign trail with force and talked him up until Senator Clinton went hoarse. There’s still the business of $7.9 million she owes to vendors. Maybe he’ll come through and help her pay off that debt.
If President-elect Obama helps Senator Clinton, it will make him look not only Clinton-friendly, but more important woman-friendly. Woman-friendly is not his style, at least not so far. Remember he apologized to a reporter for calling her “sweetie” during the campaign? Now his wife’s role as first lady will be, in her own words, “mom in chief.” Take “Obama” out of the equation and this type of behavior seems positively retro. The trial balloon of ousted Harvard President Lawrence Summers as potential treasury secretary was yet another slap to Obama’s multitude of female supporters.
Meanwhile, exit polls show that if it had been a Hillary vs. McCain matchup, things would have turned out very differently… Here is what AP discovered:
What if it had been Hillary?
There’s no way to be sure, but she might have won by even more than Obama did.
Voters in the Obama-McCain race said they would have preferred Hillary Rodham Clinton over McCain by 51 percent to 41 percent, a larger margin than Obama’s 53-46 win.
Among the differences: Women say they would have backed Clinton over McCain by 18 percentage points, bigger than Obama’s 12-point advantage with them. Whites favored McCain over Obama by 12 points but leaned toward the Republican by a narrower 5 points against Clinton. Eighty-six percent of blacks would have backed Clinton — solid, but shy of the 95 percent who supported Obama. Clinton almost matched the two-thirds of people under age 30 who voted for Obama, but nearly one in 10 of them said they wouldn’t have bothered voting at all.
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One point to make is that the same exit polls also had Obama winning by 18% (as per Karl Rove).
I backed Hillary in the primaries, but no more. She lost my vote when she went out of her way to campaign for Obama. I don’t care if she had to, to be on the good side of her party. It just makes her like any other politician. She fought hard in the primaries but at the end she kissed Obama’ ass. I normally don’t talk this way, but I’m so mad.
“Obama Considering Hillary Clinton for Secretary of State Post”
Grrr…..more pandering to PUMAS. Instead of extending a heartfelt gesture of reconciliation to us, he drops this in our laps. I am incensed how transparent his actions are. Sure he’ll put Hillary on his staff…. but only as a secretary! Him and his croonies are chortling it up in the oval office over what demeaning dress code to give her. ……………………… Secretary… Who even calls them that. Use the proper term “Administrative Assistant”, Barack.
so what does everyone think about Hillary as SoS
Well, BHO is thinking about giving Hillary the consolation prize of the State Department. If Hillary accepts that means she will seal her political future to be behind BHO and she will never have the possibility of becoming president. If this administration mess up the gains in Iraq, messes up in Afghanistan, can’t stop the Russians from ivading and attacking peaceful soverign countries, can’t stop the Iranians from buiilding missiles and atomic bombs, can’t fix the economy or fail to bring our troops from Iraq and Hillary is part of that administration, Sarah Palin will sweep the floor with Obama in 2012.
In the Senate Hillary could still have the possibility to challenge Obama if he messes up like he probably will, just like Jimmy Carter.
Yes, more you learn about Obama, more you think what wicked political skills he posses. To be honest, I think his wife is pretty ugly and her fashion is quite questionable. But, media has flatted her in a quite sick way (Media can say anything as they want without using any common sense). It’s very interesting that media never talk anything about Palin’s fashion (they usually take the topic for women including Hillary) because we all know Palin has very good sense to dress herself elegantly.
Lol will anything make you PUMAs happy?
“Yes, more you learn about Obama, more you think what wicked political skills he posses. To be honest, I think his wife is pretty ugly and her fashion is quite questionable. But, media has flatted her in a quite sick way (Media can say anything as they want without using any common sense). It’s very interesting that media never talk anything about Palin’s fashion (they usually take the topic for women including Hillary) because we all know Palin has very good sense to dress herself elegantly.”
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Are you really a democrat? Did you hear anything Hillary has said over the last several months? Move on - the rest of the world, including Hillary and Bill, have sailed. Your hateful vitriol makes you look pathetic and played. Obama has been elected President. You mean to tell me that you were a Hillary supporter and you love Palin - I don’t believe you. There is nothing rational in that thought - then again, this board has outlived its rational life as well. Snap out of it already.
dm92
““Obama Considering Hillary Clinton for Secretary of State Post”
Grrr…..more pandering to PUMAS. Instead of extending a heartfelt gesture of reconciliation to us, he drops this in our laps. I am incensed how transparent his actions are. Sure he’ll put Hillary on his staff…. but only as a secretary! Him and his croonies are chortling it up in the oval office over what demeaning dress code to give her. ……………………… Secretary… Who even calls them that. Use the proper term “Administrative Assistant”, Barack.”
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GET OVER YOURSELF! Why would Obama waste time pandering to YOU? Have you ever stopped to think that Hillary and Barack might really respect one another (that sometimes happens after a hard fought contest). BTW, what heartfelt gesture of reconcilliation is left for a group of people who don’t want to be reconcilliated? Come from out of the wilderness and jump in, the water is great!
dm92
malp - omg “Administrative Assistant of State” ha! Like I said you all have lost your marbles. Hillary should be honored. I agree JoeCool, all they do is bitch and moan on this site.
You PUMAs are insane.
& btw, Michelle is waaayy hotter than Hillary & Sarah the bimbo. Not to mention a whloe lot smarter.
So you all need to get real.
That poll is just idiotic as Hillary would have been bashed during the campaign so her numbers wouldn’t be as high as they are right now, not having gone through such a campaign.
Come on, people, rub those neurons together get some intelligent thought moving in there!