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PUMAs don’t forget to say you are voting for Barack Obama if polled…

October 9, 2008 by PUMA Pundit 

PUMAs,

If and when you get polled, remember to let the pollster know that not only do you intend to vote, but that you are strongly committed to voting for:
Barack Obama

It is extremely important we keep on doing this. Let Obama and his surrogates keep on being lulled into a false sense of security at having a lead in the national polls.

So far this strategy seems to be working, polls show Obama to be up…

Of course on election day, as PUMAs we all know that no way, no how, we shall not vote for Obama. We might write in Hillary’s name, we might vote for John McCain, heck we might even write in our own names, but to give our vote on Barack Obama is simply not something we shall do.

Rock On,

PUMA Pundit

Comments

64 Responses to “PUMAs don’t forget to say you are voting for Barack Obama if polled…”

  1. badlybehaved on October 9th, 2008 8:21 am

    Not only that but if you find anyone not voting for Ecru-man yell at them and call them retarded, old,stupid racist wh**es as the trolls do here. We all know how effective that is and reflective of those who would vote for him.

  2. Sparky on October 9th, 2008 9:19 am

    Or if you are Renshaw - show your hatred for women!

  3. C6H5NC on October 9th, 2008 10:29 am

    badlybehaved - That made my day. It’s time to make full use of the reverse-halo effect.

  4. clintonloyalist on October 9th, 2008 11:18 am

    I am with badlybehaved! We need to show how polls are skewed but most importantly, how PUMAs affect the political races!

  5. Anne Marie on October 9th, 2008 7:57 pm

    Well, I am with you, and I hope we all prove the polls wrong. However, I must admit, that they worry me lately.

    Election day is not far away, and many states this year have “early voting,” in addition to absentee ballots. I worry about how much of the “message” has been spread and if it arrived at the “right time” for these voters to make informed choices.

    Win, lose, or draw, though, I am in this for the long-haul and the long-reform, not only of the DNC, but also the electoral practices in this country. Cauceses? How fair or relevant a practice is that in the twenty-first century? Iowa? Why the hell is Iowa always so important? “Superdelegates”? I think this election proved that system as relevant and reliable as a daily horoscope reading. “Community Organizer Voter Registration”? Well…I guess that would be ACORN (aka Obama politics). We all know that resulted in the greatest voter fraud in history.

    So, I would like to suggest that after this “election,” we all continue to push for and demand electoral reform. A President is elected on a NATIONAL level, and all states must conform to a national standard, a uniform deadline, and a fair process, overseen by federal and state officials. The current system is unfair, biased, and unregulated..by anyone…except the “powers who be.” Let’s take that power back. This country, and our children, deserve to be better represented.

  6. Sparky on October 9th, 2008 8:25 pm

    Ann Marie - that is exactly what they are hoping for - doubt. Remember - 2004 - the polls had John Kerry winning by a landslide - and look who became President.

  7. LADY HAWK on October 10th, 2008 5:40 am

    PUMA,

    I’m so happy to hear about your “poll strategy”. I have been so upset by the polls, as are many as evidenced by the recent McCain-Palin Town Hall in WI. The whole voter registration fraud must be skewing the polls as well.

    I read about ex-convicts who get hounded to register to vote, but I never read anything from anyone who has actually been polled.

    I do find it interesting that the Obama campaign is desperately spending millions on advertising when they’re leading in the polls.

    I honestly don’t feel that Democrats have an honest presidential candidate to represent them this year, and I think it’s so sad.

    With the new information about Michelle Obama’s association with Dorne, hence Ayers, it is obvious that both the INFLUENCE of Michelle Obama, Dorn AND Ayers play a critical role in Obama’s worldview AND professional activities, which will involve the presidency and national policies.

    Obama shares the same ideologies as Ayers on education, the economy and foreign policy. I don’t understand why so many don’t understand this.

  8. Sparky on October 10th, 2008 5:59 am

    It’s simple Lady Hawk p- they are in denial. They don’t want their bubble to burst on their messiah.

    Every time you provide them information they want you to prove it with more - it’s beyond pathetic and disturbing.

    See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

  9. IndependentJoe on October 10th, 2008 8:47 am

    This is great! Democrats against democrats. I hope your movement works this year, being that this will be the only year you guys have half a chance to beat us. With your help, after McCain wins, we will carry on the torch and win in 2012 and 2016, etc. There is no way your sorry sad excuse of a candidate Hillary will be able to match up against Palin in 2012. I love it, your site praises Palin too. Are you guys sure you are democrats or even Hillary supports? If you guys are Republicans, this was a great idea.

  10. MJRJ on October 10th, 2008 11:19 am

    Why isn’t ACORN made public by ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC? Glen Beck talked about it on his show a couple days ago, yet, no one listens. What is happening in this country? The late night comedians are making fun of all candidates except Obama. Is there a law against anything but posative things said about him. This country is really starting to worry me. I live in North Caroline and can’t find a single person in my District that will vote for Obama, yet, the polls show him ahead. Who takes these polls and what is their interest in false information? Common sense tells me McCain is not responsible for this financial disaster our country is going through (no more than our majority Congress and Senate), why are so many people blaming it on him. George Bush is clearly responsible along with his CEO buddies. Yet, McCain is blamed.

  11. Sparky on October 10th, 2008 2:02 pm

    Exactly MJRJ! Welcome aboard - your comments are welcome!

    We march on….

  12. frankooo on October 10th, 2008 9:13 pm

    “So far this strategy seems to be working, polls show Obama to be up…”

    I think the reason the polls are up OBAMA has less to do with PUMA than reality.

    sorry but their is about to be a landslide.

  13. President Barack Obama on October 10th, 2008 9:34 pm

    Thanks for creating this site! I haven’t laughed so hard since Hillary told us how she landed under fire in Bosnia. But not to worry folks, President Barack Obama will promote 99% of what Hillary favors so your political agenda will be enacted. Think of Hilary going into the oval office on some official senate business saying, “Yes, President Obama…Thank you President Obama…Goodbye President Obama. Sometimes, when I’m bored, I listen over and over to Hillary in Denver saying, “I move to nominate, by unanimous consent, Barack Obama as the Democratic nominee for President of the United States” Its a thrilling part of this historic campaign. Oh, would you look at that, soon to be President Barack Obama has double digit leads in the gallup AND Newsweek polls today. What on earth will I wear to the inauguration ?

  14. doonsrule1 on October 10th, 2008 10:05 pm

    I am pissed at this acorn thing.I thinkAcorn screwed Hill too.

  15. truelogic on October 10th, 2008 11:24 pm

    Did anyone stop to think that the information about the Power of Three should have been kept secret. If I can view it and see all of your plans then what stops anyone from the Obama campaign from doing the same. Since we can conclude that they know about this, what makes you think they have not found a plan around your strategy. Also, why are you guys against Obama when Hilary is campaigning from him? Shouldn’t you guys throw her away also?

    -Just striking up a conversation

  16. fireweednectar on October 11th, 2008 2:53 am

    No one ever asked me who I plan to vote for. Oop, silly me, I live in Alaska–the ACORN people don’t give a crap about us since there are only like 30 Alaskans. or maybe they have 150 on their rolls?

    Sparky, I do recall that very well–I was so relieved back then when I found out Kerry didn’t win. I hope this time the tears of relief and gratitude will be streaming down my face.

    Even in the event of a McCain win, though, we can’t be complacent. I don’t agree with all his positions and we need to let this election cycle be a lesson to all of us, but above and beyond the cliche-ishness of that phrase. This crap can never be allowed to happen again. If we as Americans want to keep our rights we better start exercising them–and not just in times of crisis.

  17. joinamerica on October 11th, 2008 7:57 am

    I believe that HIllary is a patriot. And Obama is not. If Hillary would withdraw her support for Obama, I believe that the conservatives would be so impressed by her patriotism and her genuine leadership, that she would eventually be elected President. I love this country. And Obama does not. Why would any thinking person vote for his government by thuggery? Why would any thinking person want to make this violent move to leftist policies that have failed throughout modern history? The man isn’t a liberal. He is a Marxist.

  18. truelogic on October 11th, 2008 10:43 am

    Joinamerica,

    Why would a patriot be involved with someone who is not a patriot? What makes would you think Obama does not love this country? If you are retering to the skeletons in his closet, trust me everyone has them. He is not a liberal? Then why is every conserative saying he is the most liberal senator in the U.S?

  19. WWWebb on October 11th, 2008 10:49 am

    Anne Marie posted:

    So, I would like to suggest that after this “election,” we all continue to push for and demand electoral reform. A President is elected on a NATIONAL level, and all states must conform to a national standard, a uniform deadline, and a fair process, overseen by federal and state officials. The current system is unfair, biased, and unregulated..by anyone…except the “powers who be.” Let’s take that power back. This country, and our children, deserve to be better represented.

    I beg to differ. If you grant the power to ascertain voting standards to the federal government, then consequently you make it easier to curtail or eliminate the privilege of voting [despite all the slogans, it's not a "right"- look it up!]
    on a national basis.

  20. Prindle on October 11th, 2008 1:24 pm

    Hi folks, first time poster here.

    Over at conservative Ace of Spades HQ http://www.ace.mu.nu, they’re looking for PUMA opinions and input as to how best to reach out to democrats like yourselves. The language can be a bit salty if you’ve never been there before but keep in mind its meant in good fun. Its a political but humorous website. They want to know what can be done better to appeal to any democrats who are not happy with Obama and his direction. If nothing else you, you can vent with like minded people regarding Obama and the Obamabots.

    What can McCain/Palin do better to earn your votes?

    P.s. - If I was a Democrat, I would have voted for Hilary in the primary a dozen times and I’m not even associated with ACORN.

  21. Prindle on October 11th, 2008 1:38 pm

    Hey IndependentJoe,

    I know everyone realizes Joe is an Obamabot, but may I take this opportunity to ask him whoever told him he was so clever? This must be more of that slick radical left disinformation that the Obamatons are so in love with.

    Joe, what republican would turn away the support of fellow Americans? If nothing else we will unite against a corrupt Obama and get McCain elected. Then in 2012 Palin and Hillary can go toe to toe, but no matter what we will have kept Obama out of office and in that sense we will all be winners. I have no problem with Hillary 2012 if it means no Obama in 2008.

  22. Frankster on October 11th, 2008 3:48 pm

    “So far this strategy seems to be working, polls show Obama to be up…”

    And if any of you actually believe he is up because of a handfull of malcontented people giving bogus answers in scientific national polls, you are definitely drinking the Kool-Aid.

    It would take at least 2 million of you in a group doing this to make a difference of 1% in the national polls, and that assumes you actually end up in the sample group in optimum distribution relevant to your group size.

    I suppose part of this ‘highly effective’ poll fraud is also making individual campaign donations to Obama, a statistic that he is far ahead of John McCain in.

    Yes, you sure are fooling them. Heck, I’ll bet that when the votes are counted and Barack has won an electoral vote landslide, everybody will think he actually won! Little do they know it was just PUMAs following up on their poll tactics by actually voting for Barack, just to keep up the shenanigans. You can all claim then that Barack didn’t really win, and that many of his votes were “just for pretend” by PUMA folks to make them think they won.

    I don’t think anyone in the PUMA leadership is gullible enough to buy into this, but the point of fooling the masses into thinking McCain is not losing badly is to keep the money flowing in, so he doesn’t end up with a huge debt after his election loss, like Hillary did after her primary loss.

    But don’t mind me, just keep drinking the Kool-aid PUMA.

  23. doonsrule1 on October 11th, 2008 9:24 pm

    Frankster if you believe the alphabet channels and their lies then your drinking kool-aid.There are more than 2 million of us duuuuuuuuuuh.Your just pissed because us real blue bloods won’t vote for your man.Don’t you and True logic have an Acorn meetings to attend.I heard there are some untapped grave yards in Ohio that have some great names to steal.NoooooooooooooBama/Marx08

  24. Frankster on October 12th, 2008 5:33 am

    doonsrule, you are suggesting Fox news is going along with the ‘lying’ about Obama being far ahead, even though they are practically part of McCain’s campaign?

    Must be great to a have a bunch of political amateurs running a blog who know more about the state of the race and politics than all the professional analysts and journalists on the major networks.

    Hey, did you also hear about 9/11 being an inside job by Karl Rove? And the New World Order run by Illuminiati? And the government hiding alien bodies? And airliners being used to release mind-control chemicals over the US? I’ll bet PUMA folks are well informed about these things, as they seem to have the ‘inside scoop’ that the professional media is missing! Keep up the good work, and don’t forget to wear your tin-foil hat!

  25. Sparky on October 12th, 2008 7:01 am

    Frankenstein - what exactly is your point? I wasn’t aware that Fox News was covering up McCain lies - but CNN and MSNBC are for Obama.

    Can we say - ACORN?! Fradulant Voting - yes -there is proof…..Rezko is singing in his cell right now….Obama is surrounded by the wrong team. Did you know his second Muslim liason on is team just got busted - yep the first and now the second were both tied in with Hamas.

    Frankenstein - apparantly you are the one that is in denial or just plain ignorant of the facts - yes - one more time - facts.

  26. doonsrule1 on October 12th, 2008 7:30 am

    Frankster screw fixed news,and the McLame camp.All I care about is Hil in 2012.Only a fool would bring up 911 garbage to discredit puma pac.I know how stupid you are just because you thought there were 2 million pumas.Franky as long as the race is where it is,the puma factor is still in play.

  27. Sparky on October 12th, 2008 7:49 am

    doonsrule1 - we don’t want to screw McCain - we need him as President - look at our other alternative.

  28. StuckInTheMiddle on October 12th, 2008 9:14 am

    Hello PUMAs,

    I love what you are doing. I am a former Democrat just thought I would be open about that. I have had a suspicion that something like this was going on, but didn’t have any proof. I was crunching the numbers and they just didn’t add up, anyways keep up the good work. 0bama is worse news than I care to get into here and I have a feeling I would be preaching to the choir anyway.

    I will share one personal story which has shown me how you must feel about being kicked to the curb by the 0bama crowd. I went into a political chat room one day with the intent to find out how PUMAs are being treated. I wanted to see for myself if PUMAs really were being abused by other Democrats and so called Liberals(they aren’t real liberals). So I went in with a new user name and pretended to be a PUMA and even though I agreed with 90% of what this Liberal room was saying, when I said I didn’t like the way Hillary was treated( I actually really don’t like the way she was and is being treated) I was jumped. The mildest name they called me was a cry baby. They said I should just get over 0bama stealing the nomination. They said much worse than that, but I won’t share the cuss words here. Even though I am not a real PUMA some of that stuff stung, probably because even with that deception I was being honest about my feelings on the issues that were being discussed and about how Hillary is being treated.

  29. Woman_in_Virginia on October 12th, 2008 9:22 am

    EVERYONE LET US NOT FORGET THESE WORDS OF WISDOM…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxDLKUeoJm0

    I know Hillary is in a pickle right now because she has to “appear” to represent the democrat candidate, but if you listen “closely” to what she says nowadays…I think there are some veiled warnings to her supporters to do everything you can to make sure Obama doesn’t get elected. Let us not forget what she said in the beginning. She has tremendous respect and confidence in John McCain. So must we. We CANNOT allow Obama the Socialist/Marxist madman to run our great country into the ground. We need a voter REVOLUTION come November 4th. Hang in there and STAY STRONG AND UNITED PUMAS!!

  30. badlybehaved on October 12th, 2008 11:14 am

    StuckInTheMiddle: Sounds to me like you DO belong here; Welcome aboard!

  31. badlybehaved on October 12th, 2008 11:19 am

    Woman-in-Virginia:
    To quote a socialist named Emma Goldman in words the Bots might understand: If we can’t POUNCE, we don’t want to be in your revolution. Go PUMA

  32. Frankster on October 12th, 2008 11:27 am

    doonsrule, where did I say I thought their were 2 million PUMAs? Read again: “It would take at least 2 million of you in a group doing this to make a difference of 1% in the national polls, and that assumes you actually end up in the sample group in optimum distribution relevant to your group size”.

    It doesn’t matter if you have 4 million PUMAs, if only a small fraction are visitors to the PUMA websites and are participating in “doing this”, aka a coordinated effort to fool pollsters. Sorry, the combined membership for all of the major PUMA websites , and hence those privy to this ill-contrived plan, are a pittance in relation to the national polls.

    But as I mentioned, it is the number of individual contributors that best supports the efficacy of Obama’s campaign vs McCain. Obama’s campaign has raised $160 million in contributions from donors of $200 or less, more than a third of the $458 million raised. Unless PUMAs are making financial donations to Obama’s campaign as part of the plan to skew the election forecast, then McCain is falling far behind in support.

  33. badlybehaved on October 12th, 2008 11:50 am

    Frankster: Do a little research at CampaignMoney.com. Just research your town or neighborhood and see how many contributors are using multiple names for themselves. I even saw using the same address but claiming two different towns. The fraud is massive; Do you really want to support a candidate that has no respect for our Democracy; Go read Rules for Radicals and see if a bulb lights up; Move away from the Kool-Aid. No one will have to know that you dared to ask a question and no one will be in the voting booth with you. SSH!

  34. Frankster on October 12th, 2008 12:17 pm

    badlybehaved, there is likely donation fraud on both sides. However, unless someone donates over $2300, it doesn’t matter how many addresses they give for smaller increment donations. I would come up under two addresses for two donations because I moved between contributions.

    I seriously doubt that lower and middle class Americans who are struggling to make ends meet right now are looking for ways to sneak more than $2300 in donations to their candidate. People who have that kind of money to spend are upper income Americans who traditionally support the GOP for tax reasons, although in this election it seems many of them are switching to the Dem ticket as McCain’s lead is slim with that demographic.

    There are a lot of people out their desperate for economic relief who have very little disposable income but are still making donations of $5, $10, $25 to Obama’s campaign because they know they can’t afford another 4 years of the same economic policies.

  35. jlc1avc2 on October 12th, 2008 12:27 pm

    When, a decade ago, Pat Buchanan unleashed his “pitchfork brigade”, many recoiled at the ugly face of nativism it represented. We are seeing it again at McCain/Palin rallies, and it is no less ugly or frightening.

    Economic dislocation, insecurity and “fear of the other” are a lethal brew. And when stirred with enough incitement, the results can be explosive. Add together the wink, wink snide comments at rallies, the subterranean rumor campaigns (amplified by the bullhorn of Rush and his ilk), and the toxic suggestiveness of the 30 second spots - mixing liar, terrorist, foreign, “different than us”, Muslim - and the results can be dangerous. Reduce…

    And no, I can’t give McCain credit for attempting to distance himself from all this (some of which Palin helped to fuel), especially when, in response to that sad old woman’s concern that she couldn’t trust Barack Obama because “he’s an Arab”, the best he could do was say “no, he’s a decent human being”. And then as the crowds booed, he took a step back.

    I’m concerned about this election, to be sure. And, to be honest, I’m concerned about the impact that this bigotry will have on young Arabs and Muslims in the US. More than that, I am concerned about the future of our country. Once unleashed, nativism, will not quietly go away on November 5th

  36. badlybehaved on October 12th, 2008 1:02 pm

    So explain J.Stanley; Stanley J. ; J.S. –: Dr. J.Stanley; Dr. Stanley; Dr. Stanley J. J; S.; and two addresses but listing them as being in different towns when in reality they aren’t.
    We were not expecting the electioneering, intimidation and massive fraud by ACORN in the caucuses ( see video We Will Not Be Silenced by GiGi Gaston) but the Republicans have fair warning.You are afraid to look aren’t you? Where would you be if Your fantasy about who ‘that one’ is, were shattered?
    I know another Obots-Gone-Wild call has been put out by the one, but you would do better pounding the pavement. Unless you are shoeless because you gave your last 5.00 dollars to Ecru-man.

  37. badlybehaved on October 12th, 2008 1:21 pm

    J..1A..2;
    That old cry of racism is a ploy to keep people from looking into your sham-candidate. Has “THAT ONE” told you that Michelle and Bernadine Dohrn worked together at Sidley Austin in the summer of ‘87 or that Marilyn Katz, who works for his campaign is another ex-’60 SDS radical? Why would he subject his children to Reverend Wright? Why does he still support his church? Why is he lying about his involvement in ACORN that resulted in the sub-prime mortgage mess were in? Think of what would happen to this country if he was in charge?
    Too many holes in his resume; too many questions about his character and associates; too many stolen votes; too many lies; too much arrogance; Sounds like Bush, doesn’t it?

  38. cubfan on October 12th, 2008 5:59 pm

    I am a Republican and have had a real hard time accepting McCain. I will NOT however vote for Obama. He is dangerous to this country. With the economic crisis this nation faces I don’t think Obama or McCain have a clue what to do. I probably will go ahead and vote for McCain but in Illinois my vote won’t matter much.

    I do think this was an election in which Hillary is most prepared to lead and I’d vote for her over McCain. It’s a real shame how screwed up your nominating process is. The caucuses are antiquated …but the real problem is the proportional delegation process. A winner take all system and Hillary is the nominee. I don’t understand who influenced that process but it sure worked out for Obama.

  39. Frankster on October 13th, 2008 3:19 am

    “So explain J.Stanley; Stanley J. ; J.S. –: Dr. J.Stanley; Dr. Stanley; Dr. Stanley J. J; S.; ”

    Are they all $2300? If not, may be multiple donation from the same person, which is fine. Also, it is a common name, and may be father and son in some cases. The are 15 “J. Stanley”s in my local phonebook. Also, same address and different town is a common error on Internet forms due to browser auto-fill errors, where the browser fills in part of an old address rather than current one, and the person may not catch it before submitting the form. I know this from my years in the eCommerce business, It’s pretty trivial stuff to argue about anyway, if there is fraud using the same bank credit card owner it can be caught.

    Obama is pulling ahead in the polls. Today in the latest ABC News-CNN poll he is up 10 points, 53 to 43. It would take 20 million PUMA voters actually participating in poll fraud to pull that off. Seriously, give it up. McCain is losing.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/12/AR2008101202333.html?hpid=topnews

  40. jlc1avc2 on October 13th, 2008 6:59 am

    You guys are really a SAD group. God help you all..To soften the hate in your hearts. Just to think that you all have kids. I know that you’re teaching your child this kind of hate.

  41. cubfan on October 13th, 2008 7:32 am

    Frankster… in polls that survey, at time, as few as 300 people…it wouldn’t take that many people lying to voters to really skew the poll. I lie to pollsters all the time. Zogby sends me an internet poll every week and I consistently lie on it…I always say I’m voting Obama and have no intentions of doing so.

    I was called by Rasmussen in 2000 and said I was voting for Gore and voted Bush….so yea…people do lie all the time to pollsters. Republicans have typically polled worse than the actual results…

  42. badlybehaved on October 13th, 2008 8:02 am

    Nice try Frankfurter: Stanley is not the last name; the last name is consistent and he also has donations for his wife and children.The address is the same house; the townships border on one another.
    Do we have an Obot-Gone-Wild talking about Fraud; call your lawyers PUMAs , Ecru-man has declared a new crime called Poll Fraud; that’s how he’ll do it..”I, the ONE, here-by declare that questioning of ACORN’s massive electioneering; intimidation, fraudulent registration and voting are racially motivated. Poll Fraud however, is a crime because an honest-hardworking politician like myself can’t figure out how much electioneering, intimidation and fraud will be necessary to win and that isn’t fair.”

    I will exercise my right to vote anyway I choose in my Democracy, Thank you! Even more amazingly, I won’t try to interfere with yours.

  43. Oink on October 13th, 2008 8:37 am

    Hello PUMAs,

    Full disclosure - I am a McCain/Palin supporter because that is where my principles are. It’s nothing personal against Democrats. Also, FYI, I DID vote for Hillary in my state’s primary.

    But I will agree with you that Hillary was railroaded in the primary and Bill Clinton was right when he said that the Obama camp was trying to paint him as being racist. I knew he wasn’t being racist in his comments. He was talking about demographics and he was right. I think it started during VA or NC primary.

    I was beginning to lose hope, but lately have been reminding myself that the MSM is in the tank for Obama BIG TIME. I felt seriously that the polls were skewed too and after reading this article and the comments, I have renewed strength.

    Obama scares me to death and I cannot believe that the citizens of our great country would elect a socialist-type person with such radical associations. I just can’t believe it will happen.

    PUMAs, if we play our cards right, we can meet again head-to-head in 2012. But if it goes the way of Obama, it will be 2016 before Hillary has another chance!

    Thanks for listening(reading).

  44. badlybehaved on October 13th, 2008 9:10 am

    Oink-on:
    I am a life-long Democrat but have really had my eyes opened by this sham of an election. I was talking to my very Republican sister yesterday and she’s feeling down too. I sent her some of my Puma materials and she’s going to do her part to bring three on-board. If she can find three Obots in Kansas that is.
    If we do meet in 2012, I hope it will be with new-found respect for one another. Obama is an embarrassment to Democracy no matter what party we might be.
    Thanks for posting.

  45. Frankster on October 13th, 2008 1:35 pm

    cubfan, ABC News-CNN polls survey a much larger group over a wide area, and the point you are missing it that the smaller the group, the LESS likely it is that even a single voter aligned with PUMA will be in the survey group. Scientific polls are conducted to accurately reflect the position of a much larger group. Unless PUMAs are all concentrated in one are and the polls only covers that one area (which never happens) your actual group size relevant to the population will be accurately reflected, within a margin of error (usually 2%).

  46. botch on October 13th, 2008 4:01 pm

    Hahahahaha….I don’t know if this is the cutest, most adorable rhetoric I’ve ever read, or the most laughably awful. GOP hacks and/or racist hicksposing as “angry Democrats” now pretending -they’re- the reason Obama is ahead by nearly 10 points on average.

    I’d spend more time describing how hilarious your hopeless and utterly depressing disconnection from reality is, but unfortunately I have to head over to the website where a bunch of other “angry Democrats” are purposefully imploding the US economy in order to trick Barack Obama into believing he’ll win this election.

    Man, GOP, you’re -really- reaching this year.

  47. doonsrule1 on October 13th, 2008 9:42 pm

    Frankster you are an obot.You just shot yourself in the foot.You just quoted an alphabet poll.Who cares what cbs or abc says.Anyone who follows polls knows Rassmussen,Zogby,and Gallop are what you go by.Rassmussen 5 points Obama.Gallop 4 Obama.Gallop 7 Obama.Everyone knows they over sample democrats.Please don’t use alpabet polls.Jlc if you think we are fostering hate than leave.If people can’t speak their peace,than we have a huge problem in this country.Why can’t we ask questions about Obama,without being branded racist or hatefull.Change?Sounds more like if you don’t like Obama the goosestepers will shut you down.Spanky,don’t worry I will vote for Mclame.I won’t support Marxism,and I don’t support people affiliated with groups that bribe young kids in Ohio with ciggarettes and quick cash to vote 73 times.How many people got bribed to vote against Hillary.Hmmmmmmmmmmm

  48. badlybehaved on October 13th, 2008 10:20 pm

    I was out to dinner with some Obama supporters tonight and they’re afraid he’s going to lose. They think there are a lot of people who are saying they will vote for Obama but won’t actually do it . I wonder if its because his supporters can be as obnoxious as the one’s here. I know if I had come here undecided,l they would have sent me running the other way; My friends however, think it might be a deep subconscious racism. Looks like Obama is already looking to place the blame on his tried and true excuse; What a pity that PUMA won’t get the credit.

  49. doonsrule1 on October 13th, 2008 10:45 pm

    BREAKING: Word in Chicago: Patrick Fitzgerald heading RICO investigation of ACORN and BHO campaign

    Tonight we talked to someone who works in the federal courts here in Chicago.

    The buzz in those corridors is that federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has been leading a team of FBI investigators in 10 states working on a RICO case.

    Today, it was announced that ACORN is being investigated in 10 states.

    That’s one heck of a coincidence.

    We asked why Fitzgerald would be involved in this, because he’s the prosecutor on the Tony Rezko case and we aren’t aware of ACORN being investigated in Illinois.

    We were told that ACORN was investigated in Illinois years ago, and it was a Fitzgerald case then. This means ACORN’s activities today, involving a conspiracy to commit multi-state voter fraud on SoetorObama’s behalf, are an extension of that previous ACORN case.

    Our source in federal courts said, “Any crime that involves more than two people and is carried out across state lines qualifies as a corrupt organization. The fact that those “Goodwill” donations were made in Texas and received at Obama headquarters in Chicago or Washington means it qualifies for RICO.”

    The “Goodwill donations” referred to above are the $228 million in undocumented, unverified campaign contributions the Obama camp has received — which the McCain campaigned filed a complaint to the FEC on this past Monday.

    We’ve also heard that the Clinton campaign filed complaints to the FBI and other federal agencies over Obama’s fraud in the Iowa, Texas and other caucuses: voter intimidation, registration fraud, and other illegal activities.

    The last thing we were told tonight in regards to all of this was that “the memo here is a tying together of all these various threads. That’s what you will see in the last weeks of the campaign: all things being tied together”.

    If everything rumored here is true, it looks like David Axelrod, Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, Obama himself, and possibly even Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid were all involved, together, in massive RICO violations, and thus federal fraud, if the DNC and party leadership knew what the Obama campaign and ACORN were up to and allowed it to proceed. Knowledge of federal crimes being committed makes all parties accessories to those crimes — and part of the conspiracy to defraud the public

  50. doonsrule1 on October 13th, 2008 10:46 pm

    How do you like that story Obots.

  51. TmCm on October 13th, 2008 11:11 pm

    “Mommy, mommy, what are those?”

    “Those are P.U.M.A.’s, sweetie. Back in 2008, they were the result of a cross-breeding of RNC swift boat tactics, post-loss anger, and Karl Rove.”

    “Who’s Karl Rove, mommy?”

    “The Devil, baby. Now, these P.U.M.A.’s you see here have to be kept in a secure echo chamber in order to keep them alive. They so deluded themselves into thinking that they actually had an influence on the 2008 elections that they eventually devolved away from needing food and now subsist on a fine mixture of bulls**t and self-righteousness.”

    “They look…. sad, mommy.”

    “They are, honey… they are.”

  52. TmCm on October 13th, 2008 11:26 pm

    Hey doonsrule, that rumor and a dollar will get you a sandwich out of the vending machine.

  53. badlybehaved on October 14th, 2008 6:28 am

    Mommy:
    Why does EVERYONE look so sad? Because we used to have a democracy and then someone promised ‘change’ and no one asked any questions. Now we have socialism and Mommy has to go to a re-education camp because the “Internal Security Forces” found mommy’s copy of Sisterhood is Powerful.

  54. botch on October 14th, 2008 12:13 pm

    What a sad, lonely little person you are, badlybehaved. Thank you for being an excellent case-study for the medical world’s ongoing battle with mental illness, and yet again for providing evidence that the public school system needs help. Just do everyone a favor, and this goes out to all of you PUMA/GOP (same difference) mongoloids: On Nov 5th, turn the gun on yourself, not Obama.

  55. pumakemeill on October 17th, 2008 8:15 am

    PUMA = NAUSEA
    Your organization’s offensive seems horrendous to thinking women that will be voting on the issues. It is official: You are no longer members of the Democratic Party. This is your perogative. However, using deceptive tactics to sabatoge those of us who remain loyal to our party is out and out wrong ,and bordering on “evil”. The more you decide to use these divisive and ugly tactics, the more you are guilty of the same offenses you accuse the DNC of.
    Many of us women out there beg you to stop screaming from your perch and come down back to earth to vote on the current CRUCIAL ISSUES: Economy, National Security (especially our standing in the WORLD), women’s rights!, education, health care, need I go on???!!!
    We must cast our votes for our children and our future generations. Your misguided actions are dangerous and you are playing with fire. To many of us it would seem that you are committed to leading us straight into a nightmare - to the further demise of our nation under the inadept control of a McCain/Palin presidency.
    Take a deep breath, take a step back, vote the issues, not your anger.
    Push for the reform you wish to see within the DNC once we are safe from a ruinous Republican agenda ruling OVER our beloved country.
    Dearest Hillary Clinton would be grateful for this, as would we all.

  56. PalinFan on October 17th, 2008 2:37 pm

    TO: IndependentJoe on October 10th, 2008 8:47 am

    I am new to this site and will out myself now as a Republican. However IndependtJoe - you are dead wrong about the affects of this site.

    Both parties are dying from within…

    McCain in this election is simply the better choice. Hillary got nailed by the worst in her party as Republicans get nailed by far right fringe… This IMO has produced two profound results — 1) Obama - the most frightening candidate in American History 2) the development of a fringe middle group in which some republicans may find a home.

    I want to see one vote for each voter. The ACORN stuff scares me. Voter fraud and candidate misrepresentation scares me. The way a Candidate that was WAY more qualified was cast aside by the MSM which we Republicans are used to - scared me too. We still don’t know crap about this guy.

    the PUMA movement moving forward may be surprised to find Republicans joining them moving forward - simply because both parties are nuts right now. the question to me is - is it too late. God I hope not.

  57. Sparky on October 17th, 2008 3:42 pm

    PUMAs Unite! Welcome aboard PalinFan!

  58. badlybehaved on October 17th, 2008 4:56 pm

    Hey Sparky Did You See McCain last night if you didn’t, do.

    Bo-itch: New term for a bot that has the Obama Rash; Really classy to call us mongoloids; that used to be a term used for children born with Down’s Syndrome but the people of Mongolia didn’t like that. Hard to tell who you are trying to insult or why but you have once again shown all who come to this site just who it is that is voting for Obama.

    Pumakemeill: Have a cup of ginger tea for your nausea; However, if your nausea is caused by all the crap you’ve been swallowing you might need a suppository.

    Thank You for the compliment, I am proud not to be a member of the new left socialist vote-stealing Democratic Party. Maybe those who are so proud to vote for this man wouldn’t mind having gullible tattooed on their foreheads so that the rest of us can sell you a pyramid scheme.
    Economy: read about how ACORN and Obama started the sub-prime mortgage mess and how McCain tried to stop it. Read what Obama really plans to spread the weath around in yesterday’s WSJ, Check out Grove Parc in Chicago
    National Security, you can’t be serious; read about the Cloward-Piven Plan to overthrow the government from within(October 17, The American Thinker.) Go to Discover the Network.org an see how all the shady characters in Obama’s life are connected.
    Women’s rights, work for the ERA so the sexism shown to Hillary and Sarah will be considered a hate crime, Yes Sarah Palin is a woman and not a cu*t a as the teeshirt that can be viewed through Obama’s website says.
    Education see the video of the Obama Youth and the new social studies textbook that has fifteen pages devoted to Obama; Read about Ayers’ and Obama’s educational plans and see how successful they were in Chicago
    Health care is probably the only thing that I disagree with McCain on in that I think it is a right (one of my degrees is in nursing).
    Frankly, I find it obnoxious that you somehow must think you have the right to more than one vote, What country are you living in? No way, No how, Nobama.

  59. TmCm on October 17th, 2008 10:25 pm

    “1) Obama - the most frightening candidate in American History”

    Seriously? Palin’s up there, surely. Oh, sorry, forgot; you’re all busy overlooking her nuttiness in favor of throwing some cream pies at Obama.

    What about Strom Thurmond? Unlike Trent Lott, I think most people don’t actually think the country would’ve been better off had he won… (also, that man has a disturbing number of buildings and military planes named after him…)

    David Duke? Alan Keyes? Rudy Guliani, whose only platform position seemed to be 9/11! 9/11! 9/11!? GEORGE DUBYA BUSH???

    “2) the development of a fringe middle group”

    Bit of an oxymoron, isn’t it?

  60. Xangora on October 18th, 2008 9:08 am

    I would say otherwise. They are saying now that the race is actually quite close. However, it looks like the campaigns of Republicans and Democrats know it much better. McCain’s campaign is now trying to defend their own strongholds.

    There is no question that Obama is making significant progress in states which voted Republican in previous elections. The electoral vote map is a much better way to see the trend. Not the polls which measure popular vote.

    And there is not question that if the elections were held today, Obama will get past 300 electoral votes. This is fact. If you think otherwise, you are just dreaming.

  61. Jenn Q. Public on October 20th, 2008 1:41 am

    The Fat Lady Has Laryngitis…

    Last week all I heard about was the end of conservatism and the dawn of a liberal supermajority, and I’ve had enough.
    Let’s start the week off right with a few reminders that this election ain’t over yet. Is the presidential race tig…

  62. blondegenes on October 26th, 2008 7:57 am

    It’s true,,I’ve talked to a lot of people who are so intimidated by Obama’s supporters aggressive “in your face” approach, that they are lying to the pollsters about who they are supporting.
    Which is just one more reason I don’t believe the polls.

  63. mbander on October 26th, 2008 8:52 am

    pumakemeill,

    One thing this campaign has done for me is to no longer “trust” our representatives just because they have a “D” after their name. I believe our party is being high-jacked by the far left wing. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi represent the worst of this group. Worst thing about them, is the utter contempt they have for us, the electorate. You are right, we need to consider the effect this will have on our children, but I for one, do not believe this group will leave much of a world for our kids. They are more concerned about their own power, than the good of this country that I love.

    Therefore, I cannot vote for the Marxist Obama. Happily, he has lost a number of points in the polls since last Thursday, as people wake up to who he really is - and he is NOT the person to represent the JFK Democrats (yes, I am old enough to remember that party), but is a candidate who will take this party to a place that will shock even some of his ardent supporters.

    A vote against him is the best way I can think of to take my party back!!

  64. sheehy on October 26th, 2008 9:24 am

    mbander - explain the tenets of marxism and how obama is a marxist? just b/c you call someone marxist does not make it true. do you honestly believe that more than 50% of america (ie, the bastion of capitalism) support a marxist? you’re kidding yourself with that line of attack.

    as far as obama’s numbers slipping in the polls … that’s actually not true. if anything, they strengthened this last week. i encourage you to visit www dot fivethirtyeight dot com to see what i mean. if you spend some time looking over the posts on that blog, you’ll also find a post entitled “PUMAs are dead”. bad news for this site … also, a recent poll found that 81% of hillary clinton’s supporters now support obama. that makes the 7 million “strong” claim made on this website.

    you can guarantee that the discourse on this page will become increasingly derisive, harsh, and offensive as the election day nears and mr mccain’s numbers slip further.