Barack “Community Organizer” Obama needs his pacifier… pronto!
September 4, 2008 by PUMA Pundit
Oh boy, I guess Barack “Community Organizer” Obama has to whine after being knocked out by Sarah Palin last night… To describe the following whine as pathetic would be an understatement.
This is work I did three [sic] years ago They haven’t talked about the fact that I was a civil rights lawyer. They haven’t talked about the fact that I taught constitutional law. They haven’t talked about my work in the state legislature or the United States Senate. They’re talking about the three years of work that I did right out of college, as if I’m making the leap from 2 or 3 years out of college into the presidency.
Is it just me, or has Obama himself been talking about his stint as a Community Organizer ? Secondly, why the heck is he whining at being called a ComOrg (yup Slang for you know what…)?, when he alluded to the fact that Palin was nothing but a Mayor not too long ago?
BO: Well, you know, my understanding is that, uh, Governor Palin’s town of Wasilly [sic] has, uh, 50 employees, uh, uh, we’ve got 2500, uh, in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. Uh, uh, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. Uh, so I think that, uh, our ability to manage large systems, uh, and to, uh, execute, uh, I think has been made clear over the last couple of years. Uh, and certainly, in terms of, uh, the legislation that I’ve passed just dealing with this issue post-Katrina, uh, of how we handle emergency management. The fact that, uh, many of my recommendations were adopted and are being put in place, uh, as we speak indicates to extent to which we can provide the kinds of support and good service that the American people expect.
I don’t know about you , but I think Obama produces enough fertilizer to cover 500 acres of farmland.
Posted by AD76
Oh, and she doesn’t believe in science (Creationism, Global warming)_, despite being the daughter of a science teacher.
The problem is OBAMA is the one that is constantly touting his community organizer experience. I for one am not sure what that is. Brings to mind Al Sharpton and his Community organizing around Tawana Brawley. But now that people have started questioning what that means - well he starts whining. And NOW his latest acomplishment?? RUNNING a campaign for the job he seeks. Yes he has the Ivy League education, and he sure talks pretty when he’s reading from the teleprompter, but he has surrounded himself with suspicious people, and conducted a sleazy campaign, and frankly he would throw you to rabid dogs in a heartbeat jwl6 and blame Bush and whine when he was questioned about it, if he thought it would get him elected……because despite what he says, this election has nothing to do with our country and EVERYTHING to do with Obama. So he’s got a fancier sounding set of skills on his resume - so what - you can’t polish a turd.
mbander, it appears that jwl6 is a desperate lonely person who tries to attack women on websites because he is to timid to debate them face-to-face, so he tries to do a hit and then run.
Unfortunately, he keeps spouting the same rhetoric like a broken record and loses his train of thought along the way, which is why he never makes any sense. That is why no one takes him seriously. He is just a silly man who adores empty suits and drinks lots and lots of Kool-aid.
If it lays like a turd, smells like a turd, it must be one.
Jwl6 - you know, I’ll say it again - Birds of a Feather - Flock together. So you are now with an elite group, terrorist and with a guy married to a wife that calls fellow Americans (that she is not proud of) white oppressors.
Oh and please don’t make me pull her transcripts up - that would just be to embarrassing to you and your Obamomaniacs. Perhaps Obama didn’t know what his wife thought of white people as well. His Spiritual leader and wife must have him fooled, who else do you think can fool him - Iran, Russia, China, North Korea….it’s endless…
Oh jwl6 - I though you would be gone by now - are you really that lonely to talk to someone - anyone?
Spanky I’m Sure you are Stupid. Is it possible that you don’t understand Obama because he’s not dumbing it down for you? Let me see if i can help you a little. Obama explain his answers and tells you how and why he arrived at his stance. We don’t want a one way thinking President anymore. Our leaders should be smart and be able to analyze every possible angle before choosing anything. This is how you pick the best possible outcome. Please Pull Palin Transcripts put it rite next Obama and I Promise you, You’ll be ashame. i know for a fact she didn’t even come close to finishing on top of her class. I’m sure you don’t think Palin can Talk To Iran Russia China North Korea lol. If you do then the school system in America is worst than i though. How about you just try to finish little Iraq and Afghan war that’s taking a powerful Nation like American Over SIX YRS to just finish. We should be ashame to call this war a win. No wonder countries are tring us, seeing our weaken and distracted we are.
I don’t dislike Obama, I am questioning his creditablity to run a country and deal with war. John McCain has experiance with war. Sarah Palin’s speech was grea. I felt like she was talking to me, small town America. I think she will be great on the social issues and John McCain will be great with military issues. Obama is a VP candidate. I can’t see him as president. A Biden/Obama ticket is better. Biden has the experiance a president needs. But a Clinton/Obama ticket would have won hands down. But since that did not happen McCain/Palin ticket has the best shot.
general colin powel told the bush administration not to go to war in iraq. however captain john mccain voted for the war in iraq. if you know anything about ranks a general is higher than a captain. the navy equivalent of a general is admiral. the army equivalent of a captain is colonel. so being that powel and mccain were in the same war (vietnam)…who do you think has more military experience? bush nor mccain chose to listen to the man with the most military experience. and that makes me question mccain’s ideas about war. who won the vietnam war? that will be the same outcome for iraq. i find it a contradiction that he talks about how he was tortured, but he advocates the us torturing its war prisoners. just a thought.
OK, clintonloyalist….it’s spelled “experience,” not “experiance”. And “credibility”, not “creditablity”.
John McCain DOES have war experience. He was a POW during Vietnam.
And…..that’s it.
Being a POW qualifies you as a war hero, but it says nothing about whether you understand the war you were in, or whether you are a real student of history. I wonder….if Sen. McCain understood the history of Vietnam before the U.S. became involved, would he have so hastily supported the invasion of Iraq?
We certainly need a real student of history in charge of our military….someone who understands that military force is to be used only as a last resort, and only with truly overwhelming force. Not as part of an academic doctrine of “pre-emption”, or for the sake of “regime change” and nation-building.
If you are a true “Clinton loyalist”, then you must be seriously concerned about Palin on social issues, considering her far-right views on things like sex education and reproductive rights. Yet, you say she will be “great on the social issues”. Huh?
Gee, I just had this crazy thought. What if you are not REALLY a Clinton loyalist? What if you are really just another McCain/Republican shill, coming in here to snipe Obama while pretending to love Hillary?
If you are really a Clinton loyalist, then I’ll bet you’re hyped to see Hillary in Florida next week when she campaigns for Obama. GO HILLARY! Come on PUMAs! Support Hillary! She supports Obama!!!!
I am actually a female professor at the University of Georgia. Goes to show what you know, Spanky.
Clinton Loyalist:
What experience does John McCain have with managing a war?
Don’t take this the wrong way, but he was in a room for 5 years during Vietnam after being captured.
What he did do re. Afghanistan, Gulf War, or Iraq? Nothing.
He has zero experience managing a war. George has experience waging a war. So does his dad. Want to vote for them?…
He’s not experienced!
No, wait…
He doesn’t put country first!
No, wait…
He doesn’t represent change like I do!
Does that work?… No…
Um… I was a POW…
I picked a chick!
Ah… let’s see…
Give us another chance and we won’t really, really suck this time!
Please…?
You’re a professor at the University of Georgia? Really? Seriously? Now I know where your ultra-liberalism comes from. It all makes perfect sense. You teach school. Where is your lifes knowledge, books and teaching. You are no more in touch with realty and the actuals going on in the real world because you have never experienced it.
I thought you were leaving this site? Are you addicted? Perhaps you should march down the hall to one of your Psycology Instructors and seek a cure for your addiction to websites that you hate.
First you said you worked at Fox News, now you are a Professor at the University of Georgia - what’s next, you are actually Barack Osama?
No wonder you have no credibility, just like your fearless leader - birds of a feather - flock together.
Oh and mature, you seriously need to change your name to immature, because you have demonstrated your mental capabilities in your writing.
Sparky, I love how you think that college professors don’t live in the real world. Let me see what a typical day is for me. Yesterday I woke up, had breakfast and then showered. I took my dog for a walk. I then drove to work and attended three meetings, taught two classes, met with five students after attending to some email. On my way home at 5 p.m., I stopped at the grocery store and then was on to the gas station. When I got home, the dog got another walk before I made my dinner. I sat down at my desk after dinner to pay my phone bill, my gas bill, my cable bill and my car payment (yes, isn’t if funny that I have to pay monthly bills just like everyone else?). My brother called to give me an update about his son who is deployed to Iraq. We then discussed what to do with our father who is currently in assisted living and may need to go to a higher level of care. We just don’t know how we’ll pay for this. Real enough for you? Bills? War? Elderly parents?
Maybe the only difference between folks like you and folks like us is that we have worked on our ability to critically think. And, by the way, someone could work for both Fox News and teach in a university. You’d be amazed at how many of us “ultra-liberal” teachers have to work two jobs to just make ends meet. So much for Republican economics.
Renshaw, thank you for your life story, I have printed and taped it in front of my desk for confiirmation that you are a real person with a real life. I now understand that everything that is spouted is 100% accurate, you are the PERFECT example of American, no one else. Only you can provide an opinion that matters, no one else.
How dare someone else - with even half the brain of yours - can think of voting for any other candidate then the critically thinking elite.
As a matter of fact, we shouldn’t even be allowed to vote or think, we will leave that up to you - the college professors “elite critical thinkers” - because, after all you know all and what is best for all of us simpletons.
It’s amazing that if Democratic or Republican economics were so perfect, why hasn’t one outlasted the other?
The United States is an amazing Country - unless you think like Obama and you say - it WAS an amazing Country, and the great thing about it is that we do have the right to think and speak our beliefs.
I believe, in my opinion, that Barack Obama is a socialist in Democratic clothing. He does not follow my beliefs, nor does Joe “hair plugs” Biden.
I will not vote for him and why all of you Obama supporters feel the need to come to a website that does not promote him and force your beliefs on someone else and feel offended because we won’t be pushed or bullied into thinking the same way you do is beyond me.
Why are you here? Trolling?
i actually thought this website consisted of intelligent women that were critically thinking about the issues of this country. i wanted to see how women who supported hillary felt about palin. expecially since they are complete opposites. i wanted to know if you realized that mccain was putting a woman on the ticket to lure in hilliary supporters. and that if you really analyzed hilliary’s views and palin’s views you would recognize mccain’s strategy. he is counting on you to vote for a vagina. and if you say i’m going to vote for the vagina then i can respect that. but i can’t respect factless bashing. i guess i overestimated this group.
ps. as an adult, you should critically think about everything you are involved in and what will effect you and yours.
Spare us GAPEACH you came on this website as an Obama troll, which is why you spouted off on us.
Sparky,
After reading a number of your posts, I’m beginning to believe you might well be one of those ‘good ole boys’ that voted Governor Palin into office in Alaska. Thinking about it…you worked in engineering (a male dominated profession), you have an open hostility toward educators (did you dislike being told to behave by your female elementary teachers?) and you overuse a fishing term.
Well…no matter, except for the fishing term. Here’s another term you probably have heard used in fishing…‘chumming.’ You may have even used this technique in ‘trolling’ for salmon up in those cold Alaskan waters. That is, metaphorically, what the Republicans are doing to try and lure what they THINK are dumb, disaffected ‘Hillary Fish’ to their hooks. They are using a mixture of chopped up feminist clichés, ideals, and other bits of embittered junk fish and throwing it out there in hopes of snagging you and those that think like you HOOK, LINE, & SINKER!
Incidentally, the Kool-Aid metaphor is also getting a bit tedious.
Tedious, but the truth.
I am actually female and an executive, with an education who has listened to many professors trying to brainwash students in the way they think. The purpose for the eduction is to set the foundations and let us grow, through education, personal and professional tribulations.
I believe that the DNC outright supported Obama, turned against Hillary, the ultr-liberal media supported Obama and treated Hillary with no respect.
She had more experience than Obama, period.
And then Sparky says, “Darn! Those *#!*#! MEAN girls keep coming into our clubhouse. Why can’t they just leave us alone to play make-believe with our Palin Dolls? Who’s it hurting, anyway? Duh!”
You mean that ultra-liberal media that went after Hillary (whom Palin decried as a whiner who couldn’t stand up to the scrutiny) that is now going after Sarah?
And, yes, that is the goal of all of us professors - we try to brainwash our students into the way we think. If that’s the truth, than we’re absolute failures since there isn’t a overflow of mindless, socialist type thinking liberals throughout the country.
I think I can put it simply as this. There seems to be a lot of people here who are hyped about Obama. If there is that much hype, why do we need to be seperated as P.U.M.A.S? If there is so much hype from people on here, why do still continue to badger those who aren’t hyped about Obama. I am immune to Obamafever and there isn’t thing anyone can say or do to convince me otherwise. I will give McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden fair shots in the debates. I agree with Sparky that the DNC wanted Hillary out and look at the mess it left Obama in. Obama had 20 million votes, Hillary has 18 million votes. Bush won with 59 million votes in 2004. Together Hillary and Obama had a strong 38 million supporters together leaving a good 20 million to win over support. Now Obama has his 20 million but has to pick up lost Hillary supporters, and pick up new supporters. So I feel he did hurt himself by not picking Hillary, and Biden already comes from a state that goes blue. New York can swing.
John McCain received 13 million votes in the primary. I guess that leaves 46 million to go, huh?
Not every state got to vote in Republican primary. The Republican primary is winner takes all as far as delegates are concerned. The Democrats split the delegates. With the democrats, all the states had a say. That is why the numbers are skewed on the Republican side. McCain hit the magic number early in the primary so we really don’t know how many votes McCain would have got if all the states had a say in the primary.
Thoughts from a girl in Texas…
Why did McCain pick Palen?
1. Could not win with Lieberman or Ridge
2. Obama did not pick Hillary
3. Will bring in Republican base
Why Palin’s pick is important?
1. 1st female GOP female (history making)
2. Working mother
3. Mother of special needs child
4. Life time NRA member
5. Pro-Life
6. Small town politician who worked her way to Governor very fast
7. Not a professional politician who plays it safe ( Biden/Obama)
Why is this important to all women?
1.Sexism was obvious with Dems against Hillary yet Dem women did not speak up against media nor Dems. Did you see the GOP women’s press conference fighting for Palin and accusing Media of Sexism? I LOVED IT! GO GIRLS!
2. No one can agree on ALL issues, ever! That is a fact. But we can agree to make our political choices on issues and not gender sexism.
As a fellow Women’s activist (Susan Estrich) has recently stated in an article……..
“But what is just as troubling to me as Palin’s willingness to impose her choices on others is the stupid and mean-spirited commentary from some of my liberal friends, attacking her for the choices she’s made, attacking her diligence in securing prenatal care in her latest pregnancy, suggesting that the child was really her grandchild and not her son.
Since her selection last Friday, liberal blogs have been on the attack against Palin and her family. They have assumed the right to second-guess her choices in precisely the same way we criticize conservatives when they presume to second-guess ours. How dare she leave her infant at home and return so quickly to her job as governor? How dare she entrust the care of her baby, especially a baby with special needs, to someone as unqualified as, say, her husband? Maybe the baby wasn’t really hers in the first instance. Maybe it was really her daughter’s. And, most appallingly of all, maybe she didn’t seek adequate prenatal care for her son — a post so loaded with the implication that she might somehow be at fault for her son’s Down’s Syndrome that its author ultimately claimed he was merely questioning her “judgment” in deciding to give a speech in her seventh month of pregnancy before heading directly home (she also consulted her obstetrician by phone). How dare he?
There is an old saying that it’s never the crime, it’s the cover-up. So, too, I often think with women candidates: It’s not about sex, but sexism. If you say to a group of women, you should support Mary or Jane, or Hillary or Sarah, because she is a woman, the majority will be offended. We women like to believe that we make our decisions on the merits, on the basis of policy and experience, not anatomy.
But if that woman candidate should come under what is plainly sexist attack, if her opponent or the media treat her in the sort of patronizing way that every girl and woman in America is more familiar with than we should be (as Hillary’s Senate opponent did in 2000 and as many in the media did in 2008), women rally. ”
WOMEN NEED TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THIS NOW! ADMIT THAT POLITICAL ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT AND CAN BE ARGUED, BUT SEXISM CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!
Consider that if the media had utilized the same amount of resources that are currently be used on Palin to investigate the Obama-Ayers connection ( which is not publicly available and still no one in the main stream media interested in ) Hillary would be the Dem candidate.
WE LOST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR WOMEN WITH HILLARY. LET’S NOT LOSE ANOTHER!
Amen moni amen!!!!!!
Moni,
It seems odd to me that someone who can speak so eloquently on the issue of sexism, refers to herself as a “girl.”
Whosez,
WHAT?!?!?
Such a silly mindset. You obviously do not understand that it is not necessary to hate your gender to stand up for it.
Moni… you go girl!!!
Whosez,
I take it you are not from Texas nor have never been. Down here, we are all girls, regardless of age. We take pride in how we look and how we dress, but we also do NOT take crap from men or other women. A women can be feminine and still be tough. Just take a look at Sarah.
WasHRCnowPalin,
I beg your pardon! I refer to myself as a woman. Not the diminutive ‘girl.’ There’s been more WOMEN demeaned by the term ‘girl’ by your so called ‘good ol’ boys,’ than I can mention!
I think your “You go girl!” is silly to the extreme!
Moni,
Just thought of a question after rereading your post. What happened to all of the other experienced (and more deserving, if you use Sparky’s logic) Republican women McCain could have chosen?
I think that #4 on your list of ‘why McCain picked Palin” should be-
4. An obvious play for PUMA votes.
I think you were trying to say that in #2, but there is another old saying, “A sin of omission, is still a sin.”
Moni,
If I read your post correctly, you can’t be feminine if you don’t refer to your self as a ‘girl?’ I’m not all that familiar with Texas, but I believe any state that would elect Anne Richards as governor has something going for it. I wonder what she would think of your position on voting McCain/Palin?
whosez,
Are you familiar with the old saying ” you can’t see the forest for the trees”? That’s immediately popped into my head when I read your post.
Sometimes in life, we all must take a step back and consider the greater good. Ask yourself, is it better for women across the nation, regardless of race, color, creed, religion, etc. to have a women as VP or is it better to hope that in 4, 8, 12, etc., we have another opportunity?
1984!!!! Remember that year? Geraldine Ferraro ran as VP. It has been 24 years!
Do women really want to wait another 24 years?
Being from Texas, football is in my blood. I remember a video clip of Bum Phillips of the Houston Oilers talking about the playoffs against the World champions, Pittsburg Steelers and the Oilers had just lost a playoff game to them. He said, ” You know, last year, we knocked on the door. This year, we banged on the door. Next year we’re going to kick the door down!” Unfortunately, the Oilers did not return to the playoffs.
Vote your conscious. Do what you think is right. I will do the same.
whosez.
P.S. You don’t know Texas and you don’t know Anne Richards!
Moni,
Although, you did not answer my questions, I will answer yours. Yes, I am familiar with that saying. However, I would ask you this question (maybe I’ll get an answer from you this time), “Is it better to elect a woman VP, even if she does not place herself on the beneficial side of women’s issues, just because she is a woman?” I’m looking at the forest of women who could suffer greatly (who HAVE suffered greatly) from FOUR MORE YEARS of Republican rule. When we will have better opportunity to help make their lives better. I’m a pragmatist, not a historian. I abhor football almost as much as I do guns (and I was raised in family of hunters and armchair quarterbacks)! I can wait, as long as I know that there will be people working to eliminate the gaps in parity for women, for the uneducated, for the economically disadvantaged, for the hopeless and helpless among us. I don’t see that happening with a McCain/Palin government.
P.S.
I remember President Johnson, very well. I greatly admired his war on poverty and his stand for racial equality and I believe he would be shocked by your position!
Moni,
P.P.S.
It seems to me, you identify yourself more as a “Texas Girl” than as an “American Woman.” Just a thought!
whosez,
So you don’t like football nor guns. Well, that explains it.
To answer your question… YES. Again, I will refer you to Susan Estrich…
“But if that woman candidate should come under what is plainly sexist attack, if her opponent or the media treat her in the sort of patronizing way that every girl and woman in America is more familiar with than we should be (as Hillary’s Senate opponent did in 2000 and as many in the media did in 2008), women rally. ”
BTW, I am a Texas girl and damned proud.
I got more important things to do than having an unproductive dialog.
Have a great life
PUMA fallower… as I am, but I am 100% against getting involve in defending Palin, because She is a woman. She can defend Herself, and She is doing great job. This is not the time, to stop supporting Republicans, because we are angry at Obama and His people. If You want to pay 12 billions for war, and loose more lifes, because McCan military mine, because He dont like to loose, than we are in a big trouble , and we will never imrove not just our lifes, but OUR children, and we USA becaome to be as communism was!!! POWER above all!!! WAR,OCCUPATION<killings, for drem of power by ONE person. McCain is so angry for what He went through, that He want to full feel His dream, and this is “time to pay back”!!! FOR HIS WOUNDS….NO WAY I CAN SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO IS ALL ABOUT HIS EAGLE ABOUT WINNIG WAR. IT IS NOT OBOUT US, IT IS ABOUT HIM. HE CHOSE PALIN TO GET WOMAN SUPPORT FOR HIS WINNING “WAR” ON IRAQ. NO WAY, WE ARE THERE BECAUSE OF OIL, NOT BECAUSE IRAQ IS DENGEROUS FOR US. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT BUSH PUT US IN NOW DEMOCRAT MUST PULL US OUT, NO METTER WHAT IS GOING ON THERE.WE ARE NOT IN WAR, WE ARE OCCUPING ANOTHER COUNTRY AS COMMUNISM DID WITH EASTERN EUROPE!!!
puma, WE ARE GOING IN WRONG DIRECTION … support Palin but after ellection, not now. WRONG DIRECTION!!! WE can not support McCain and His long dream to pay back to any one, for His pass.
This is not about Him, it is about US, Middle Class,poor,Health Care,Social Security, Jobs. He didnt say, that He will help to solve all those problems, He will continue Iraq occupation, clean us from anything we still have , and Military will have power over US and OUR life. It will be military style Government, not just police style(FISA). Social Security, retirement,pention, all will be gone, because this is McCain mentality”MILITARY POWER”, He was rise as military, and that is all He knows…
1,2,3,4 …
bab,
You said: “support Palin but after ellection, not now.”
Er, kinda too late AFTER the election… Don’t Ya Think??!!
Or do you, like the Democratic good ol boys, like Obama, and like the Obamedia, not want a woman in the White House… ever?
We can’t stay home and pray hopping to eliminate his opportunity to be President. Only McCain can beat him. We don’t want to reward him and DNC, my vote will go to McCain. I trust a Patriot rather than a cheater and a liar. Bo doesn’t have a plan, if he does, it is a symbolic plan. Do you think he will carry it out? Don’t kid yourself!
Yes, Right to vote, vote for the patriot McCain who has voted every time against any benefit to our soldiers coming home. That’s the sign of a real patriot.
Congress has been unresponsible for a long time, they should do their job instead of taking vacation.
WHERE IS SARAH PALIN???????
The Sunday talk shows have come and gone. NO SARAH PALIN!!!!!! Where is she? Why won’t she stand up to the press as she thought Hillary should? Why so scared, Sarah? Afraid they may ask you:
1. Why the choice you were able to exercise with regards your unborn son with special needs is a choice you would take away from all other women?
2. Why you are being investigated by a REPUBLICAN legislature regarding your professional ethics?
3. Why your pastor invited a man to your church who said that Jews deserve the violence and terrorism they receive because they haven’t embraced Christianity?
4. Why your daughter was out of school for 6 months prior to the birth of your so-called youngest son?
5. Why you, who believe in family first and taking care of the child, got a plane in Texas and flew 10 hours to Alaska and then got into a car and drove 50 minutes to your hometown AFTER your water broke?
6. Why none of your staff knew you were pregnant until you were 7 months along?
7. Why you believe the invasion of Iraq is God’s will, George W. Bush God’s instrument and the war itself is God’s plan?
8. Why you side with John McCain in voting AGAINST equal pay for equal work for women?
9. Why you claim you did not support the “bridge to nowhere” when, in fact, the record proves you did?
10. Why you claim to be the advocate and voice for families with children with special needs, when in fact you took funding AWAY from special needs children during your last 18 months as governor?
To Renshaw and Pumas, I like Palin. From what little I have seen of her she is a captivating character. However, I need to see more of her to make an informed opinion either way. Unlike other Puma’s in this forum, I will not rush to judgement. I do believe that Obama should have picked Hillary as the running mate, but he did not and now I have a lackluster appeal for the ticket. Moreover, I do not feel compelled to “teach” the Dems a lesson by rewarding the Republicans. That is just insanly ignorant. My problem is the bashing from both camps, more so from McCain. His (McCain) strategy, concerns me. However, I am a little leary of how the Obama camp has responded to the republicans.
I must say that there seems to be an elephant in this forum that reaps of “ism’s” and that makes more even more uneasy. Could some dark ugliness be seaping into the campaign from the right to the middle? I pray not>
Be Blessed.
Paco
paco……….
I agree with your assessment regarding all of the rhetoric on this site. Obama made a BIG mistake by not choosing Hillary. I guess he believed the Media and believed that once Hillary was removed, then he could walk to the Oval Office.
People are right to question McCain’s choice of Palin, but has anyone raised that question of Obama’s choice of Biden over Hillary?
To date, regardless of the reasons or opinions, McCain’s campaign is on fire and Obama’s has stalled. USA Today poll shows MaCain ahead of Obama by 10 points. So who made the best choice?
I force myself to go beyond the rhetoric and when it comes down to it, I typically vote for the person that I trust the most. Up to 2 weeks ago, I was on the fence.
After realizing a definite lack of info regarding the candidates on the TV media, I started doing research on the web. Lot’s of garbage on blogs that I do not pay any mind to. But the items listed below are facts reported by various newspapers………………..
Facts about Obama
1. Obama’s “community organizer ” activist group in Chicago was ACORN. ACORN is a Far Left organization with has been found guilty of voter fraud in various cities in the US.
2. Obama on the Board of the Chicago Anneburg Challenge, a non-profit organization in which Bill Ayers was instrumental in forming. The same Bill Ayers of the Weathermen Underground terrorist group. Obama and Ayers were present during several meetings between 1996-2001.
3. Obama and Ayers served together for three years on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago. Laura S. Washington, chairwoman of the Woods Fund, said the small board had a collegial “friendly but businesslike” atmosphere, and met four times a year for a half-day, mostly to approve grants.
4. Obama’s known connection to Tony Resko who is known to be a housing slum lord and convicted on several counts of fraud and bribery. However, the connection between the two Chicagoans was “all but ignored by the news media, other than Fox” until it was raised in a Hillary / Obama presidential debate .
5. Obama’s known relationship with Kwame Kilpatrick. The mayor of the nation’s 11th largest city, Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick pleaded guilty to a pair of felony obstruction charges and will step down after months of defiantly holding onto his job based on encouragement of people like Barack Obama.
From my research, Obama has associations with some unsavory organizations and indivduals that I would not associate with if I had a choice. Therefore, Obama does not represent someone who I can trust .
McCain has a history of going against his party in order to make changes on how Congress conducts business. As 1 of 100 senators, his power is greatly limited, but his track record for bi-partisonship cannot be questioned by any reasonable person who follows politics. He went against the Republican party on Ethics Reform and Immigration. That is one of the reasons that many Republicans were not enthusiastic about McCain.
I cannot find (and I have looked hard) any piece of significant legislation where Obama went against the Democratic party lines.
Of course, this is just my opinion and I suggest you do your own research and make your own assessment.
Cheers.
Moni
Nicely laid out Moni. I am right behind you on this. Let’s not forget his association with Reverend Wright and his ideology’s protrayed on tape. The whole church was clapping and dancing as he was mimicking President Clinton and his association with Monica Lesinsky. It was disgusting. He did this with children in the audience. Do you think this is the first time the Reverend has spoken so outragiously on any subject? Obama’s own wife is a racist.
His wife
His pastor
His friends
His business associates
His poltical associates
What does this tell us really about Barack Obama.
I will never vote for this man! I will do whatever it takes not to get him in the White House. I don’t believe in his platform - because it is made up - he makes promises that are even within the Executive Power rights.
No way - No how - NObama!
you would be right except for the fact that as it turns out Mrs. Palin is a bit of a liar.
she told obvious lies about obama just watha little msnbc or cnn anything but fox (those right wing a**holes) its all over those ones. I will say msnbc is a little left but cnn actually does a pretty good job of both.
wtf? if ur McCain right cause if ur quoting hilarry but changing it i gotta say ur pretty hipocritical Sparky. Anyhway how is michelle obama a racist how are his friends rasicts you dont know his friends. I get Mr. Wright did say some things he shouldnt have but that doesnt mean any of the other people on that list are
What’s the matter obamalover2 - hit a chord with you. You project such a sound bit for your saviour? Why are you on this page - to stick up for the messiah.
We aren’t going to vote for him and yes his wife is a racist, his pastor is a racist.
They want to throw the race card for anyone that won’t vote for him, forget the fact that he is an empty suit with nothing to offer but false promises of change.
Exhibit A - Joe Biden - that sure was change - for the worst.
By the way, your boy is going down - the polls are already showing it.
FACTCHECK
False Internet claims and rumors fly about McCain’s running mate.
Summary
We’ve been flooded for the past few days with queries about dubious Internet postings and mass e-mail messages making claims about McCain’s running mate, Gov. Palin. We find that many are completely false, or misleading.
* Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn’t cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.
* She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a “What if?” question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin’s first term.
* She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982.
* Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a “courtesy” when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.
* Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska’s schools. She has said that students should be allowed to “debate both sides” of the evolution question, but she also said creationism “doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.”
A few of these claims were included in a chain e-mail by a woman named Anne Kilkenny (Democrat)
Good job Moni!!
WTG moni! good use of those facts. so on the flip side…this is what mcpalin stand for
i posted this earlier from cnn. just a brief wrap up.
McCain and Palin get their health insurance paid for by the government (hers in Alaska and his in Washington). Yet they oppose giving the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans the same access to affordable health care.
John McCain’s kids don’t have to worry about paying for college. Yet he has opposed every single education support program to help others.
McCain and Palin say they will stand up to oil companies. Yet the only energy policy they support gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil companies to do more drilling and he has opposed every piece of federal legislation to explore alternative fuel sources.
McCain and Palin say they will revamp how Washington does business. Yet his campaign is filled with lobbyists and she has cooperated with Sen. Ted Stevens in funneling federal money for useless projects in Alaska for years. And McCain and Palin have no solutions for Americans worrying about their jobs in a fragile economy.
McCain and Palin want us to leave their families alone. Yet they want to make rules for our families by eliminating our right to make our own choices over abortion, eliminate our access to family planning education or domestic partner benefits, and our freedom from discrimination.
They want to control what our kids learn in school about sex and about science. In short, through the policies they promote and the judges they support, they want the government to have more control over our private lives than at any time in history.
McCain and Palin now say their campaign is about change, too. Yet the only real change they have proposed is a change from a suit to a skirt in the vice president’s office and one man fighting a misplaced war for another in the Oval Office.
Thanks for keeping the facts straight Moni!
The rabid leftist in cahoots with the Obamedia can only be defeated by champions in the blogsphere!!
Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilot was a governor.
Uhm-m-m-m domermon, by far that is the dumbest post I have seen here so far.
Seriously, truthfully just plain stupid and ignornant.
I would like to make myself a litlle clearer than the above and state that only a moron would post that.
I’m sorry fellow PUMAs for being so rude….and honest.
I could not hold back.
…and I am really sorry for putting down another human being.
Excellent comments Moni and Sparky,
I agree with you and am also scared to death about this racist Obama in office. People REALLY need to research him. http://www.theobamafile.com
He has way to many racist friends and mentors, wow….
He constantly corrects himself after wrongful statements, what’s he going to do talk to the leaders of Iran and Venezuela and then call them back in a week and say oh that’s not really what I meant. come on is this who we can count on. Yes change, I change my words, change what I said, change what I meant to say. UM UM UM UM wait a minute, wait a minute. I forgot what I was gonna say.
This is not a change for the better. Hillary was out right cheated, and she is so desperate to pay her debts she is falling behind this empty suit.
Nobody is bringing up ACORN he paid CSI lots of money on behalf of Acorn to register and manipulate voting and registration. Don’t by into this…
Interesting info form person who went to his school
Senator Obama himself says on page 154 of the paperback version of his best-selling autobiography entitled “Dreams From My Father”. He writes, “In Indonesia, I spent two years at a Muslim school, two years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies.”
Please its really scary. What about the interview with George Stephanopoulos, he said I my Muslim faith and didn’t catch it the George corrected him saying your Christian faith right.
Me
Gloria Steinem is an an old Senile b-tch and she not be respresenting us.
I certainly am not listening to her.
I’m glad that someone like Sparky has such disdain for Gloria Steinem, because it typifies an attitude: “You worked for 40 years for my right to say “F%$# YOU.”
Sparky certainly has the right to flip the bird to all feminists (including Hillary), from the 19th century to today. But (s)he might not realize that 40 years ago women were excluded from most professional jobs by a “gentleman’s agreement” that was similar to that against Jews in this country in the more distant past. Talk to a professional woman in her 50’s and ask her about the obstacles she faced. If this website is truly pro-Hillary, this paragraph is totally unnecessary.
In the 60s Sparky, assuming she is female and not the child of privilege, could have been: a nurse, a teacher, a waitress, or a retail worker. How did that “gentleman’s agreement” change? Was it the free market that changed women’s status in the workplace? I’d love to hear someone advance an alternative to my explanation: the federal government, prodded by feminists like Ms. Steinem, used legislation and administrative orders to level the playing field for women in the workplace (and education, and health care, and the military, and …). That means that “big government” righted a massive societal wrong.
What does this have to do with Sarah Palin? She’s very quiet about real policy issues. Why do you think she is so quiet? She seems so outspoken, when she’s ragging on “community organizers”. The hockey mom has skated to glory while cross-checking the feminists who prepared the way. That might even be OK if she had even one non-creationist idea. Please tell me Sarah’s idea, without “reform” cliches. And if it’s cutting taxes to increase federal revenue, well, can we just say that if this is a pro-HIllary site we’ve heard that BS before, and it’s right up there with creationism.
Gee Sparky if you think Gloria Steinem’s senile why are you voting for a man who’s only two years younger?
Apparently all of his marbles are still in tact.
I should ask why are you voting for an empty suited socialist that hangs around with known terrorists, takes money from them and has an ignoramous for a Vice President who is a known pathological liar.
SummertimeBlues - I am well aware of what she stood for, I am shocked that she is supporting BO, and I am sad for the position she has put herself into.
Both my parents were immigrants and were able to experience the American Dream through their children. I am a 45 year old executivve and by the way - a Hockey Mother. I became pregnant in college and decided to keep the child. I married the a-hole (since he was my first and I was stupid and young enough to believe in love) - 4 years later had my second child - all the while working hard and climbing up the latter. I eventaully divorced a-hole and based on the carreer I built was able to survive as a single working mother for a while. I eventually remarried - but still keep all of my accounts separate - because I will never depend on a man - the only person I depend on is myself now.
I eventually got that elusive degree while working full-time and raising two kids.
Years later my son graduated at the top of his class at one of prestigious military acadamies - my daughter is now in college pre-veternarian.
I don’t need some one to tell me about femisim - I live it - everyday and I certainly have a mind of my own with an abundance of common sense to determine which candidate will meet my agenda.
Yes - I would like to see a female candidate move ahead - no doubt - but there is so much more to it. Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air. Do I believe in EVERY single one of her ideologies - perhaps not - do I believe in some yes I do. Same with McCain.
Obama and Biden offer me absolutely NOTHING. It goes back to the Bill Clinton analysis on Candidate X and Candidate Y.
I have worked so many long hours - I haven’t had a vacation in 10 years - and now I’m going to be told by some socialist to fork over part of my paycheck to someone who hasn’t put the time and effort that I did.
It is possible for women to make the ranks, unfortunately we have to work harder then our male counterparts are.
You want to pick on Hockey Moms - start with me - I’ve got my lipstick on and I am ready for you.
Should have stated “climbing up the ladder” - gosh darn - I wish this had a spell check!
By your standard of what a creationist is every parent who takes their child to Sunday School, a Mosque or Temple is a creationist. They all share the same Hebrew Bible/Old Testament. and want their children to learn about it..
There is a lot of mis-information out there..I think it’s a good idea to go to Fact Check before we get our panties in a bunch about some of this stuff.