At times I feel like it's just me against the world...

  • WasHRCnowPalin

    Big D,

    Thanks for your prompt reponse.

    What you have described is a fundamental weakness on Obama’s part….. he disenfranchised 18,000,000,000 votes because he was fearful of the Clintons.

    If Obama was fearful about that… we’ll give him something to really fear… how about a one way ticket on the bus home?

    The Superdelegates are the Washington insiders who threw Hillary under the bus in favor of Obama. We saw the those dynamics as they happened… do not re-write history… and for heavens do not justify Obama’s good old boy pick! I like Joe but not as VP on that ticket!

  • whosez

    WasHRCnowPalin,

    It is clear that every explanation presented to you will have the same result…you want to punish Obama and the ‘powers that be’ in the Democratic Party. This is not about anything more for you than bitterness. You want realistic…you haven’t seen “good ole boys” until you see the ones that will be cheering when your equal rights as a woman have been taken away by a McCain loaded Supreme Court!

  • Guest

    I think Jazzy HAP has dyslexia or something else that prevents her from understanding words. Let’s try that again:

    “Mccain is reaching out to PUMA voters by offering them a candidate who the only thing she has in common with Hillary is they both have vaginas? He’s not reaching very far then.

    Use your head Palin is an obvious ploy.”

    Read that slower this time and look up the big words.

  • whosez

    Thank you Guest. Right about now I needed a good laugh!

  • WasHRCnowPalin

    whosez,

    Punish the Washington insiders who stole this opportunity from Hillary? Moi?

    Why yes! Punish those Superdelegates offering only lip-service to women.. change their way of thinking about gender issues once and for all…. the time has come and Obama didn’t have the courage to grasp the hand of a woman and pull her through that glass ceiling the way others did for him. It takes courage to do that… Obama took the easy way out….. with good ol Joe.

    John McCain took on a heap of controversy by picking a woman… I will reward courage like that with my vote.

    So should you.

  • polhod

    Ah yes, reward the courage of that noble feminist John McCain. Or maybe read beyond the US press.

    The joke that should have sunk McCain

    * Ed Pilkington
    * The Guardian,
    * Tuesday September 2 2008
    * Article history

    Imagine the stink that would erupt were David Cameron to stand up in front of a dinner of rich Conservative backers and make a “joke” that implied that Sarah Brown had had a lesbian affair with Jacqui Smith and produced a love child (and an ugly one to boot). Can you imagine British papers deciding to downplay the story because it was in such bad taste, allowing Cameron to carry on with his assault on Downing Street?

    Cross the pond and that is exactly what happened to John McCain at a fundraising dinner in Arizona a decade ago. “Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly?” he told a handful of big Republican funders. “Because Janet Reno is her father.”

    The remark packed into its 15 words several layers of misogyny. It disparaged the looks of Chelsea, then 18 and barely out of high school; it portrayed Reno as a man at a time when she was serving as the first female US attorney general; and it implied that Hillary Clinton was engaged in a lesbian affair while the Monica Lewinsky scandal was blazing. Not bad going, Senator McCain.

    Any one of those elements would seem potentially terminal for a public figure. Yet here he is 10 years later presenting himself as a champion of feminism by appointing Sarah Palin as his running mate.

    The puzzle is explained partly by the US press, which barely reported the story. The Washington Post broke it in June 1998 but declined to relate the joke on the grounds it was “too vile to repeat”. Such coyness has long been ingrained in the US media, which has an annoying tendency to regard its readers as wayward children in need of moral protection. That’s one important reason, incidentally, that blogs are doing so well in the US – they have no such scruples and behave in ways more akin to the British than the mainstream American media.

    Think of presidential candidate John Edwards’ affair and alleged love child. The refusal of most newspapers to touch the story was ridiculed in the blogosphere for weeks before Edwards himself “legitimised” it by confessing.

    After his misogynist joke, McCain said sorry to Bill Clinton (though he made no direct apology to the three women involved) and the incident was all but forgotten. Should he win on November 4, his friends in the press might have some answering to do.

  • whosez

    WasHRCnowPalin,

    You are a lost cause, and if I have anything to do with it your MISGUIDED cause will loose. I don’t have anymore time to spend on you, I’m due at the Obama for President campaign center to do volunteer work.

  • whosez

    Pardon me, lose ,not loose. Angry hands again!

  • Big D

    WasHRCnowPalin,

    You Said: “What you have described is a fundamental weakness on Obama’s part….. he disenfranchised 18,000,000,000 votes because he was fearful of the Clintons.
    If Obama was fearful about that… we’ll give him something to really fear… how about a one way ticket on the bus home?
    The Superdelegates are the Washington insiders who threw Hillary under the bus in favor of Obama. We saw the those dynamics as they happened… do not re-write history… and for heavens do not justify Obama’s good old boy pick! I like Joe but not as VP on that ticket!”

    My response:

    1) Senator Obama didn’t disenfranchise anybody. He ran a better campaign and won the primary. End of story. You can huff and puff all you want, but you are simply inaccurate.

    2) I am not “re-writing history.” There are “facts” and there are “feelings.” Both exist, but both do not prove the same things. I understand your anger and bruised feelings, but those feelings do not change facts. whosez was right when she/he said to you: “It is clear that every explanation presented to you will have the same result…you want to punish Obama and the ‘powers that be’ in the Democratic Party. This is not about anything more for you than bitterness.” Amen.

    3) It isn’t fear that kept Obama from putting Clinton on the ticket. As much as everyone here likes and respects Senator Clinton, it is by no means clear that she would have helped him win. Many in America strongly dislike both Clintons, and they had spent a lot of effort attacking Obama in the primaries. Putting her on would possibly cost him support among the general electorate. Making a decision like that isn’t “fear,” it’s a political judgement.

    4) I don’t think the controversy about McCain picking Palin was about her being a woman. It was because she was not a recognized name and seemed to come out of nowhere. And before you say Senator Obama did the same thing, I will add that he spent over a year putting himself before the electorate running for President, so he was not a new face by the time people were voting.

  • Guest

    WasHRCnowPalin,

    A. They’re not childrean, you’re not their mother, you’re not “punishing” anyone.

    B. “John McCain took on a heap of controversy by picking a woman” No he didn’t it was her lack of experience that was controversial. Really her being a woman was pretty much a safe bet.

    C. I just firgured why you anny me so much. It’s the glass-ceiling. PUMA is drgging gender into this, when no one else haS. Obama hasn’t dragged in color, even when their have been a few off-color remarks. I always thought true feminists don’t need to whine and stomp their foot and complain about a glass ceiling.

  • WasHRCnowPalin

    Whosez,

    While you are down there ask Obama to explain why he diss’d Hillary and 18,000,000,000 of her voters! He still hasn’t stepped up to offer an explanation… fact is, he can’t explain.. the reasons would sink his campaign tomorrow!

  • WasHRCnowPalin

    Big D,

    Must you engage in demeaning my viewpoint too? An embittered woman? No, not embittered… just not going to take it laying down anymore… will stand on principle…

    An Obama-Hillary ticket would have swept the election…. and besides, if Obama was afraid of Hillary then why didn’t he put another woman on the ticket? According to your reasoning there must not have been any to pick from?

    I don’t buy it Big D. It was the folks pulling the strings that made this decision and it is the same insecure mental cases that are going after Sarah Palin and her pregnant daughter!

  • WasHRCnowPalin

    Guest,

    Then you don’t know the fundamental premise of the battle

    Decades ago when this fight began… women, blacks, hispanics, and some native americans came together to change things in America and the workplace… we knew that though we worked twice as hard as a white man for the same pay that would never change until we broke through that glass ceiling… for it was on the other side of the glass ceiling that lasting change could be made… so we determined to continue to work twice as hard and where ever possible lift a few of us through that glass ceiling… let others stand on our shoulders… then those on the other side would help changed the unwritten policies that prevented women and minorities from acheiving equality. Furthermore, the ones who made it through to the other side would reach down and lift others through the ceiling and they in turn would also do the same. So we implemented such things as affirmative action and convinced corporate america that it was in the their interest to be a workplace of diversity.

    That strategy only works when folks who make to the other side do their duty to bring others through… Mr. Obama violated the most basic item of the fight… not only did he not pull Hillary through it… he missed the golden opportunity to shatter that ceiling forever! His VP choice set women’s opportunity for that back a decade… at least!

    Some folks forget the big picture when they make it through the glass ceiling… as did Mr. Obama.

    Now Sarah is that opportunity to break that ceiling once and for all… that also gives Hillary another shot in 4 years.

    When you think about these things seriously then what choice do women really have at this point?

    Go Sarah!

  • cstraton

    WasHRCnowPalin

    How can you possibly say that you are standing on your principles? Are your principles to degrade women? Are your principles to take women back to the “good ole days of the 50′s” when white men ruled and jews and blacks and women were second class citizens? You aren’t punishing Obama or the Democrats or the Washington Insiders that you seem to hate. You are punishing me, my daughters and my granddaughters. You sound like one of those angry white men instead of a modern woman. I am glad to hear the other voices of intelligence. Stop being p…..d and start using your brain.

  • WasHRCnowPalin

    cstraton,

    There is no going back…. well maybe if Obama caves into the Islamic Fascists we will… but we will go forward now without Obama… he had his chance to do the right and proper thing for women…. he buckled to the Democratic insiders who he was beholden to.. he diss’d Hillary and he diss’d women in America when he did that.

    He could have had the election sewn up today. Now he will lose for being weak…. perhaps though it is best that it happens now before he gets into the White House and the phone rings and 3:00 in the morning.